Suffix's

Edward Tinker · 03-11-2003, 11:52 PM

I was wondering if others have digital pictures of their suffix's? If I can get some from you, I have started a webpage that has suffixes on it. Provide me with a nice clear photo of the suffix, what year and type of gun it came from. If there is a suffix on the barrel or magazine, inlcude that also, and state it is a barrel or magazine.

I know that they look different, from different years, but here are three that I was able to take pictures of:

A from a 1914 DWM

R from an Alphabet (1928) DWM

Y from a 1942 Banner

Ed

Ron Wood · 03-12-2003, 12:43 AM

Ed, that's a darned good idea! We have always looked at printed guides, but I have never seen a "photo" alphabet. Of course there will be some variations of the same letter, but hopefully eventually you can corral the majority of them. Perhaps folks could contribute good clear images, then they could be manipulated with a graphics program to make them all the correct relative size and made into a guide for beginners (and old fogies too). After that perhaps start compiling a photo guide for proof marks. Look out Costanzo, we have a new career in the making!

Edward Tinker · 03-12-2003, 01:05 AM

Thanks Ron, if people post here or send me pictures, I will size, then compile them into an alphabet sheet. If they could also say what year and who made the markings, it might make more sense.

I personnaly have trouble with some of the letters, and I thought this might be a good way to help me and others, actually see the letters.

Ed

Dwight Gruber · 03-12-2003, 04:27 AM

Frank · 03-12-2003, 08:45 AM

Hey guys (and gals), what a great idea. If I ever get a digital camera, I'll contribute!! Go git em Eduard!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Dwight Gruber · 03-12-2003, 10:10 AM

Frank, all you need is a flat-bed scanner, thats how I did the batch above.

--Dwight

Edward Tinker · 03-12-2003, 10:47 AM

Thanks!

Dwight, appreciate the pictures and text! thanks!!

Ed

John Sabato · 03-12-2003, 11:01 AM

Ed,

GREAT IDEA

, and I also must concur with you that the maker and the presumed year of production must be used for identification of each photo, There should also be a division on the page between suffixes used on frames, barrels and magazines... otherwise it will just be a hodgepodge of photos. This could turn into a great library that would be unmatched by any current Luger reference book!

You do the dirty work (thank God) and I will be glad to create a new "suffix" page to go under "technical information" to display your HTML pages and the photos...

Just let me know when you have a "first draft" and we will put it up... you can always edit it to keep it current as photos are supplied...

We could make it look something along the lines of the Rogues Gallery pages...multiple rows and columns and we can have one web page for each character that is linked from the 'master' page where you select the character you are looking for...I can send you the blank format to start with if you like. Let me know.

Thor · 03-12-2003, 11:59 AM

U suffix from 1937 S/42 Mauser Luger

just after they switched to Salt bluing (after T block)

HCS · 03-12-2003, 01:49 PM

Hi

Great topic.

I have pics of my frame and the matching magazine, with the suffix e.

G date S/42 marked Luger.

Matching magazine.

Henrik Sommer
Denmark

Edward Tinker · 03-12-2003, 02:46 PM

Thanks Henrik;

As I get magazine or barrel suffixes, I will add them to another section. As I wouldn't want to hodge podge for ole John S

{{Thanks Frank for e-mailing me those suffixes

}}

John D. · 03-13-2003, 08:06 PM

Yowwwza...! A terrific idea!!! I'll send mine up in a bit!

Good on you Ed..!!!!

Edward Tinker · 03-13-2003, 10:11 PM

Thanks, I have had really nice response so far from this forum. Although just a smattering, if you count all the Lugers in this forum and others

. Even if someone just has one suffix to add, that is great! Just e-mail them to the house

And all serial numbers will NOT show, just the suffix,

{{and if you have a non-matching, all the better, because stamping / marking is stamping / marking and has the same descriptive value!!}}

Ed mailto:66mustang@palouse.com66mustang@palouse.com</a>

John D. · 03-13-2003, 10:26 PM

"X" BYF 41

"Y"1942 Banner Police

"N" 1920 Commercial

"G" BYF 42

I have a few more - I'll try to add those in a bit....

John D. · 03-13-2003, 10:49 PM

I Unit Marked 1916 DWM

I Non unit marked 1916 DWM

F Unit Marked 1918 DWM

Hmmm.... I have a few more, too.... I'll try posting them soon...

Edward Tinker · 03-13-2003, 10:57 PM

Thanks, will add to the collection,

John D. · 03-13-2003, 11:00 PM

Well - I'd post the Kriegs - but "them damned Lugers ain't got no suffix thingys"

I'll try to post some others tomorrow for your collection, OK?

Good thread Ed..!!!

Edward Tinker · 03-14-2003, 01:29 AM

So, let me get some feedback on this: Suffixes Webpage

As I get more pictures, I will add them. Don't mind them from slightly different angles, but right now, I will post any pictures I get. I can place full name on the "thank you" at the bottom if you want, or pull it.

I figure 5 or 6 of each suffix?

Then will add the magazine and barrel pages.
Suffixes Webpage

Ed

John Sabato · 03-14-2003, 08:18 AM

Ed, it looks great! You have obviously left room for growth in variations and the cataloging is aesthetic and functional... If it is no problem for you to host it, then it would be more convenient for you to keep it updated, but when you think that there are enough examples, and inputs start to slow down we can move the pages and associated graphics to the Lugerforum server at your convenience.

In the meantime, I will create a link on the Technical Info pages to your index to accompany the suffix information already there!

It might be interesting to put one of those free counters on the page to see how many hits it gets.

Keep up the good work!

Thor · 03-14-2003, 09:16 AM

I cant see the pictures in your folder Ed.

03-11-2003, 11:52 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Suffix's I was wondering if others have digital pictures of their suffix's? If I can get some from you, I have started a webpage that has suffixes on it. Provide me with a nice clear photo of the suffix, what year and type of gun it came from. If there is a suffix on the barrel or magazine, inlcude that also, and state it is a barrel or magazine. I know that they look different, from different years, but here are three that I was able to take pictures of: A from a 1914 DWM R from an Alphabet (1928) DWM Y from a 1942 Banner Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-12-2003, 12:43 AM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Ed, that's a darned good idea! We have always looked at printed guides, but I have never seen a "photo" alphabet. Of course there will be some variations of the same letter, but hopefully eventually you can corral the majority of them. Perhaps folks could contribute good clear images, then they could be manipulated with a graphics program to make them all the correct relative size and made into a guide for beginners (and old fogies too). After that perhaps start compiling a photo guide for proof marks. Look out Costanzo, we have a new career in the making! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-12-2003, 01:05 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Thanks Ron, if people post here or send me pictures, I will size, then compile them into an alphabet sheet. If they could also say what year and who made the markings, it might make more sense. I personnaly have trouble with some of the letters, and I thought this might be a good way to help me and others, actually see the letters. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-12-2003, 10:47 AM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Thanks! Dwight, appreciate the pictures and text! thanks!! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-12-2003, 11:01 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Ed, GREAT IDEA , and I also must concur with you that the maker and the presumed year of production must be used for identification of each photo, There should also be a division on the page between suffixes used on frames, barrels and magazines... otherwise it will just be a hodgepodge of photos. This could turn into a great library that would be unmatched by any current Luger reference book! You do the dirty work (thank God) and I will be glad to create a new "suffix" page to go under "technical information" to display your HTML pages and the photos... Just let me know when you have a "first draft" and we will put it up... you can always edit it to keep it current as photos are supplied... We could make it look something along the lines of the Rogues Gallery pages...multiple rows and columns and we can have one web page for each character that is linked from the 'master' page where you select the character you are looking for...I can send you the blank format to start with if you like. Let me know. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-12-2003, 04:27 AM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts

03-12-2003, 08:45 AM	#5
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Hey guys (and gals), what a great idea. If I ever get a digital camera, I'll contribute!! Go git em Eduard!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

03-12-2003, 10:10 AM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Frank, all you need is a flat-bed scanner, thats how I did the batch above. --Dwight

03-12-2003, 11:59 AM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	U suffix from 1937 S/42 Mauser Luger just after they switched to Salt bluing (after T block) __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-12-2003, 01:49 PM	#10
HCS User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Great topic. I have pics of my frame and the matching magazine, with the suffix e. G date S/42 marked Luger. Matching magazine. Henrik Sommer Denmark

03-12-2003, 02:46 PM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Thanks Henrik; As I get magazine or barrel suffixes, I will add them to another section. As I wouldn't want to hodge podge for ole John S {{Thanks Frank for e-mailing me those suffixes }} __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-13-2003, 08:06 PM	#12
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Yowwwza...! A terrific idea!!! I'll send mine up in a bit! Good on you Ed..!!!!

03-13-2003, 10:11 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Thanks, I have had really nice response so far from this forum. Although just a smattering, if you count all the Lugers in this forum and others . Even if someone just has one suffix to add, that is great! Just e-mail them to the house And all serial numbers will NOT show, just the suffix, {{and if you have a non-matching, all the better, because stamping / marking is stamping / marking and has the same descriptive value!!}} Ed mailto:66mustang@palouse.com66mustang@palouse.com</a> __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-13-2003, 10:26 PM	#14
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	"X" BYF 41 "Y"1942 Banner Police "N" 1920 Commercial "G" BYF 42 I have a few more - I'll try to add those in a bit....

03-13-2003, 10:49 PM	#15
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	I Unit Marked 1916 DWM I Non unit marked 1916 DWM F Unit Marked 1918 DWM Hmmm.... I have a few more, too.... I'll try posting them soon...

03-13-2003, 10:57 PM	#16
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Thanks, will add to the collection, __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-13-2003, 11:00 PM	#17
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Well - I'd post the Kriegs - but "them damned Lugers ain't got no suffix thingys" I'll try to post some others tomorrow for your collection, OK? Good thread Ed..!!!

03-14-2003, 01:29 AM	#18
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	So, let me get some feedback on this: Suffixes Webpage As I get more pictures, I will add them. Don't mind them from slightly different angles, but right now, I will post any pictures I get. I can place full name on the "thank you" at the bottom if you want, or pull it. I figure 5 or 6 of each suffix? Then will add the magazine and barrel pages. Suffixes Webpage Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-14-2003, 08:18 AM	#19
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Ed, it looks great! You have obviously left room for growth in variations and the cataloging is aesthetic and functional... If it is no problem for you to host it, then it would be more convenient for you to keep it updated, but when you think that there are enough examples, and inputs start to slow down we can move the pages and associated graphics to the Lugerforum server at your convenience. In the meantime, I will create a link on the Technical Info pages to your index to accompany the suffix information already there! It might be interesting to put one of those free counters on the page to see how many hits it gets. Keep up the good work! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-14-2003, 09:16 AM	#20
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	I cant see the pictures in your folder Ed. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."