What proofs are these?

alex · 09-20-2002, 02:49 PM

Well I took the plunge and bought the Luger today. I am in the process of stripping and cleaning it. Will give more detail as I progress. I took this quick pic of the proofs. They are similar, but not quite the same to the ones shown in the Technical Information Section of this site. Can anyone provide me with further info on them?
Thank you in advance. Alex

Pete Ebbink · 09-20-2002, 02:55 PM

Imperial DWM proofs...

LP08 · 09-20-2002, 05:33 PM

The first three are inspection stamps, perhaps three different inspectors at the plant but definitely at three different production stages. The fourth is a final acceptance stamp--same stamp as appears on the barrel and is a test proof. None of the stamps in the photo are proofs, by the way. All four are inspection approval stamps. That is my understanding.

Thor · 09-20-2002, 06:27 PM

Those have been documented as being on 1913 & 1914 DWM Lugers. What is the chamber date and toggle code on yours? anything interesting on the barrel?

Doubs · 09-20-2002, 10:10 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Thor:
<strong>Those have been documented as being on 1913 & 1914 DWM Lugers. What is the chamber date and toggle code on yours? anything interesting on the barrel?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thor, it's a 1913 DWM. If you go to the thread started by Alex called "What grade of sandpaper......", there's more information including the unreal price he paid for it... $175! Seemingly all matching and in 85% condition. The bad news is it doesn't have a mag with it.

Thor · 09-20-2002, 10:58 PM

Doubs, thanks and oops, I missed all that other thread!

Johnny Peppers · 09-20-2002, 11:26 PM

The far right hand stamp is the firing proof and is found on the receiver, barrel and breech block.

ESU · 09-21-2002, 12:08 AM

Thats it Alex, just the one photo ? COme on we been waiting and arguing over this topic for a while now, give us a few more lol, ESU.
Remember 9-11 !

wterrell · 09-21-2002, 09:35 AM

ESU,

This has all been a ploy to sell a pistol. The old gun traders in the hills know how to whet an appetite for an item.
1st rule is to play dumb.
Then make everyone decide that you don't deserve to own such a fine handgun because you did not pay enough for it. Not enough financial suffering.
Next tease and flatter the unsuspecting with rare glimpses of the gun and ask for advice or information. Man, this gets the prospective buyer whipped up into a frenzy!
I would suspect that alex has already sold the pistol by private post to one of our gullible number.
Garfield had him spotted.

Think about it. This was posted in the Military P08 section. Title was "Advice on Luger purchase requested".
And the description was made by someone who knew how to describe a Luger:
[quote] Make: DWM
Barrel: 4"
Calibre: 9mm
Condition: Not sure, will know when I see it, however the seller states that it is "original finish/condition", not reblued.
Bore: Unknown
Serial #: I did know enough to ask if it was matching and he confirmed all numbers match except...magazine is missing. <hr></blockquote>

And then, he asks us what 'SANDPAPER' to use to ruin the pistol.

HOOK, LINE, & SINKER!

hermit · 09-21-2002, 09:56 AM

You sure Wes? Man I hope not.

alex · 09-21-2002, 12:23 PM

Dear Sirs, I put the "sandpaper" reference in my title to add a bit of humor, I apologize if it was misconstrued.

Regards, Alex

Doubs · 09-21-2002, 07:43 PM

[quote]Originally posted by alex:
<strong>Dear Sirs, I put the "sandpaper" reference in my title to add a bit of humor, I apologize if it was misconstrued. Regards, Alex</strong><hr></blockquote>

Relax, Alex......... Wes was just having a little fun teasing everyone. No one belives your ultimate purpose was to sell the pistol. (Of course, if I'm wrong....... send me a private e-mail!) [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

09-20-2002, 02:49 PM	#1
alex User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What proofs are these? Well I took the plunge and bought the Luger today. I am in the process of stripping and cleaning it. Will give more detail as I progress. I took this quick pic of the proofs. They are similar, but not quite the same to the ones shown in the Technical Information Section of this site. Can anyone provide me with further info on them? Thank you in advance. Alex

09-20-2002, 06:27 PM	#4
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Those have been documented as being on 1913 & 1914 DWM Lugers. What is the chamber date and toggle code on yours? anything interesting on the barrel? __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-20-2002, 10:58 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Doubs, thanks and oops, I missed all that other thread! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-21-2002, 09:35 AM	#9
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	ESU, This has all been a ploy to sell a pistol. The old gun traders in the hills know how to whet an appetite for an item. 1st rule is to play dumb. Then make everyone decide that you don't deserve to own such a fine handgun because you did not pay enough for it. Not enough financial suffering. Next tease and flatter the unsuspecting with rare glimpses of the gun and ask for advice or information. Man, this gets the prospective buyer whipped up into a frenzy! I would suspect that alex has already sold the pistol by private post to one of our gullible number. Garfield had him spotted. Think about it. This was posted in the Military P08 section. Title was "Advice on Luger purchase requested". And the description was made by someone who knew how to describe a Luger: [quote] Make: DWM Barrel: 4" Calibre: 9mm Condition: Not sure, will know when I see it, however the seller states that it is "original finish/condition", not reblued. Bore: Unknown Serial #: I did know enough to ask if it was matching and he confirmed all numbers match except...magazine is missing. <hr></blockquote> And then, he asks us what 'SANDPAPER' to use to ruin the pistol. HOOK, LINE, & SINKER! __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

09-20-2002, 02:55 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Imperial DWM proofs...

09-20-2002, 05:33 PM	#3
LP08 User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The first three are inspection stamps, perhaps three different inspectors at the plant but definitely at three different production stages. The fourth is a final acceptance stamp--same stamp as appears on the barrel and is a test proof. None of the stamps in the photo are proofs, by the way. All four are inspection approval stamps. That is my understanding.

09-20-2002, 10:10 PM	#5
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,695 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,677 Times in 551 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Thor: <strong>Those have been documented as being on 1913 & 1914 DWM Lugers. What is the chamber date and toggle code on yours? anything interesting on the barrel?</strong><hr></blockquote> Thor, it's a 1913 DWM. If you go to the thread started by Alex called "What grade of sandpaper......", there's more information including the unreal price he paid for it... $175! Seemingly all matching and in 85% condition. The bad news is it doesn't have a mag with it.

09-20-2002, 11:26 PM	#7
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The far right hand stamp is the firing proof and is found on the receiver, barrel and breech block.

09-21-2002, 12:08 AM	#8
ESU User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NY Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thats it Alex, just the one photo ? COme on we been waiting and arguing over this topic for a while now, give us a few more lol, ESU. Remember 9-11 !

09-21-2002, 09:56 AM	#10
hermit User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: canada Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You sure Wes? Man I hope not.

09-21-2002, 12:23 PM	#11
alex User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dear Sirs, I put the "sandpaper" reference in my title to add a bit of humor, I apologize if it was misconstrued. Regards, Alex

09-21-2002, 07:43 PM	#12
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,695 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,677 Times in 551 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by alex: <strong>Dear Sirs, I put the "sandpaper" reference in my title to add a bit of humor, I apologize if it was misconstrued. Regards, Alex</strong><hr></blockquote> Relax, Alex......... Wes was just having a little fun teasing everyone. No one belives your ultimate purpose was to sell the pistol. (Of course, if I'm wrong....... send me a private e-mail!) [img]biggrin.gif[/img]