Potential Buy

doppelganger · 05-26-2012, 10:22 AM

My friend's father gave him a P-08 Luger which he brought back from WWII. I have only seen a photo and some hand-written notes. It has two clips. One with matching serial number to the gun. His notes contain a number LD 236 and 4667(or Y667). The holster contains the original take down/loading tool. He reports that all serial numbers match. I wish I had more info to add. It appears to be righteous. Is it worth a follow up?

lugersrkewl · 05-26-2012, 10:27 AM

I would follow it up. If you could get pictures and a manufacturer and a serial you could get alot of info on it

mrerick · 05-26-2012, 11:19 AM

The "LD 236" might be a Weimar police unit mark.

doppelganger · 06-06-2012, 08:17 PM

I am setting up an appointment to physically see the luger, take measurements, identify numbers and markings and take digital photos. I will post when complete. Thanks again!

doppelganger · 06-08-2012, 11:55 AM

Additional information with attached photos: (Sorry for the poor quality of photos. Cameras do not function like finely tuned Lugers at least in my hand). The bore is good but needs a good cleaning. The grip under the trigger guard reads L.D. 235, serial #4667. The holster is Voegel KOLN 1939 with an eagle over WaA 387. The take-down tool is marked with an eagle over 135. One clip with a wooden base is pitted with no marking. The second clip with a plastic bottom is in good shape marked with a P.08, fxo and an eagle over 37. I was not able, at this time, to disassemble and inspect the internal works. Is it worth purchasing and at what value?

alanint · 06-08-2012, 02:34 PM

Welcome to the forum!
Your correct serial number is "4667 U". You have a Weimar era police pistol with the sear safety intact but what appears to be your magazine safety clipped off, which was very common. You don't show the pistol's middle toggle. Is it marked "Mauser" or "DWM"? The Mauser would be worth more. Please confirm.

You have a valuable, correct, collectable Weimar police pistol with its original finish. Photos of the holster and any markings on the magazine bottoms would also help.

doppelganger · 06-08-2012, 04:10 PM

Here are some photos of the holster and take down tool. There are no markings on the clip bottoms. Not sure how to check the center toggle markings. Any help would be appreciated.

alanint · 06-08-2012, 04:37 PM

Take a photo of the top of the pistol just like the one you have, only with the toggle closed so that the marking on the middle toggle is visible.

doppelganger · 06-09-2012, 10:37 AM

Unfortunately, there are no markings on the middle toggle.

Edward Tinker · 06-09-2012, 10:47 AM

I would expect the toggle not to be marked, it is in the serial range of what many collectors call a 'sneak', see the FAQ for more on that or a search of the forum.

Does this luger come with a story, can you share it for my next vol ? i am collecting stories for vol IV.

Ed

doppelganger · 06-11-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I would expect the toggle not to be marked, it is in the serial range of what many collectors call a 'sneak', see the FAQ for more on that or a search of the forum.

Does this luger come with a story, can you share it for my next vol ? i am collecting stories for vol IV.

Ed

I would be happy to share the story if there is one. From my understanding, the owner's father brought two back and gave one to each son with no bring back documents found. This luger was in a safe these many years. I would be happy to inquire, if there is any other information helpful to your book.

Is there an approximate value associated with this luger?

doppelganger · 06-17-2012, 06:08 PM

Just wondering what would be a fair price to offer this gentleman for his luger?

alanint · 06-17-2012, 06:24 PM

Go down to the "Unit Marks" section of the site and look for "Police Pistol Unit Mark" I just posted a very similar pistol about 1,000 serials older than yours. Youe will get additional information there.

05-26-2012, 10:22 AM	#1
doppelganger User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Potential Buy My friend's father gave him a P-08 Luger which he brought back from WWII. I have only seen a photo and some hand-written notes. It has two clips. One with matching serial number to the gun. His notes contain a number LD 236 and 4667(or Y667). The holster contains the original take down/loading tool. He reports that all serial numbers match. I wish I had more info to add. It appears to be righteous. Is it worth a follow up? Last edited by doppelganger; 06-06-2012 at 08:14 PM.

05-26-2012, 11:19 AM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	The "LD 236" might be a Weimar police unit mark. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

06-08-2012, 11:55 AM	#5
doppelganger User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Additional information with attached photos: (Sorry for the poor quality of photos. Cameras do not function like finely tuned Lugers at least in my hand). The bore is good but needs a good cleaning. The grip under the trigger guard reads L.D. 235, serial #4667. The holster is Voegel KOLN 1939 with an eagle over WaA 387. The take-down tool is marked with an eagle over 135. One clip with a wooden base is pitted with no marking. The second clip with a plastic bottom is in good shape marked with a P.08, fxo and an eagle over 37. I was not able, at this time, to disassemble and inspect the internal works. Is it worth purchasing and at what value? Attached Thumbnails

06-08-2012, 04:10 PM	#7
doppelganger User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are some photos of the holster and take down tool. There are no markings on the clip bottoms. Not sure how to check the center toggle markings. Any help would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

06-09-2012, 10:47 AM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	I would expect the toggle not to be marked, it is in the serial range of what many collectors call a 'sneak', see the FAQ for more on that or a search of the forum. Does this luger come with a story, can you share it for my next vol ? i am collecting stories for vol IV. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-26-2012, 10:27 AM	#2
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	I would follow it up. If you could get pictures and a manufacturer and a serial you could get alot of info on it

06-06-2012, 08:17 PM	#4
doppelganger User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am setting up an appointment to physically see the luger, take measurements, identify numbers and markings and take digital photos. I will post when complete. Thanks again!

06-08-2012, 02:34 PM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Welcome to the forum! Your correct serial number is "4667 U". You have a Weimar era police pistol with the sear safety intact but what appears to be your magazine safety clipped off, which was very common. You don't show the pistol's middle toggle. Is it marked "Mauser" or "DWM"? The Mauser would be worth more. Please confirm. You have a valuable, correct, collectable Weimar police pistol with its original finish. Photos of the holster and any markings on the magazine bottoms would also help.

06-08-2012, 04:37 PM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Take a photo of the top of the pistol just like the one you have, only with the toggle closed so that the marking on the middle toggle is visible.

06-09-2012, 10:37 AM	#9
doppelganger User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unfortunately, there are no markings on the middle toggle.

06-17-2012, 06:08 PM	#12
doppelganger User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 20 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just wondering what would be a fair price to offer this gentleman for his luger?

06-17-2012, 06:24 PM	#13
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Go down to the "Unit Marks" section of the site and look for "Police Pistol Unit Mark" I just posted a very similar pistol about 1,000 serials older than yours. Youe will get additional information there.