Artillery Model Questions

TCguy · 09-23-2008, 02:17 PM

I own a 1914 DWM Artillery Model Luger complete with snail drum and wooden shoulder stock. My question involves the drum. It has a three digit serial number. Interestingly the digits are the same as the first three on the Luger. Is this coincidence? I ask because snail drums were not made until three years after my Luger was manufactured. Were they retrofited or numbered to keep things straight in the armory? If you know please let me know.
Thanks TCGuy

Ron Wood · 09-23-2008, 03:34 PM

Sheer coincidence...but cool!

A 1914 DWM arty is a little on the scarce side. We would really enjoy some photos if you would be so kind.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-23-2008, 03:36 PM

Charlie, Do you have photo's of the drum? A myriad of possibilities exist. Drums were NOT numbered to pistols.
5 Drums were in each Kasten and one loader.
I am sure George Anderson could tell us how many were issued to each Company.

Jerry Burney

TCguy · 09-23-2008, 03:53 PM

I will get pictures but at the moment I am over a 1000 miles from my Luger. The snail drum is not a reproduction...thanks for the help.
regards

George Anderson · 09-23-2008, 03:56 PM

Like the fellows before me, I would be really interested in seeing photos of your pistol. Trommel magazines were serial numbered for manufacturer and army accounting purposes only they were not numbered to weapons.

spartacus38 · 09-23-2008, 07:31 PM

If it is a 1914 dated DWM Artillery I would like to know the

serial number and I will add it to the list.

Bob

TCguy · 09-23-2008, 07:57 PM

Bob, It is and I will let you know as soon as I return home....I have done enough research to know what it is...I have two Artillery models not sure of the year of the other and the maker are you interested in it? Dad bought the second one in 1927 with a Luger hoslter but it is too small or short for the long barrel.TC Guy

spartacus38 · 09-23-2008, 09:35 PM

TC Guy

I am listing only the 1914 DWM Artillerys by

serial number on this site.

Some pictures of it would be nice for everyone to see.

Bob

TCguy · 09-25-2008, 10:11 PM

back in town. My 1914 DWM Artillery Model Luger is serial numbered 677. Its accompanying snail drum is serial numbered 677911 on the back there is a B over an N I have some pictures if someone is willing to post. The regular magazine (clip) is aluminum and does not have any serial numbers. Is that correct?

TCguy · 09-25-2008, 10:17 PM

Just looked at my pictures they are lousy...The 1914 date appears to be double stamped in my picture... it is not just my shaky hands...and an inexpensive digital

MFC · 09-26-2008, 12:02 AM

Charlie,
The original magazine would be nickel or tin plated and would have a wood bottom with the S# stamped on it.
Mike C.

TCguy · 09-26-2008, 12:10 AM

Thanks Mike...I'll check it out. I don't think the 1914 has any numbers on the bottom , the 1917 has numbers but they do not match the gun.

09-23-2008, 02:17 PM	#1
TCguy User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SW Oregon Posts: 22 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Artillery Model Questions I own a 1914 DWM Artillery Model Luger complete with snail drum and wooden shoulder stock. My question involves the drum. It has a three digit serial number. Interestingly the digits are the same as the first three on the Luger. Is this coincidence? I ask because snail drums were not made until three years after my Luger was manufactured. Were they retrofited or numbered to keep things straight in the armory? If you know please let me know. Thanks TCGuy

09-23-2008, 03:34 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Sheer coincidence...but cool! A 1914 DWM arty is a little on the scarce side. We would really enjoy some photos if you would be so kind. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-23-2008, 03:36 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Charlie, Do you have photo's of the drum? A myriad of possibilities exist. Drums were NOT numbered to pistols. 5 Drums were in each Kasten and one loader. I am sure George Anderson could tell us how many were issued to each Company. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-26-2008, 12:02 AM	#11
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Charlie, The original magazine would be nickel or tin plated and would have a wood bottom with the S# stamped on it. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

09-23-2008, 03:53 PM	#4
TCguy User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SW Oregon Posts: 22 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	I will get pictures but at the moment I am over a 1000 miles from my Luger. The snail drum is not a reproduction...thanks for the help. regards

09-23-2008, 03:56 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Like the fellows before me, I would be really interested in seeing photos of your pistol. Trommel magazines were serial numbered for manufacturer and army accounting purposes only they were not numbered to weapons.

09-23-2008, 07:31 PM	#6
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	If it is a 1914 dated DWM Artillery I would like to know the serial number and I will add it to the list. Bob

09-23-2008, 07:57 PM	#7
TCguy User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SW Oregon Posts: 22 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Bob, It is and I will let you know as soon as I return home....I have done enough research to know what it is...I have two Artillery models not sure of the year of the other and the maker are you interested in it? Dad bought the second one in 1927 with a Luger hoslter but it is too small or short for the long barrel.TC Guy

09-23-2008, 09:35 PM	#8
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	TC Guy I am listing only the 1914 DWM Artillerys by serial number on this site. Some pictures of it would be nice for everyone to see. Bob

09-25-2008, 10:11 PM	#9
TCguy User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SW Oregon Posts: 22 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	back in town. My 1914 DWM Artillery Model Luger is serial numbered 677. Its accompanying snail drum is serial numbered 677911 on the back there is a B over an N I have some pictures if someone is willing to post. The regular magazine (clip) is aluminum and does not have any serial numbers. Is that correct?

09-25-2008, 10:17 PM	#10
TCguy User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SW Oregon Posts: 22 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Just looked at my pictures they are lousy...The 1914 date appears to be double stamped in my picture... it is not just my shaky hands...and an inexpensive digital

09-26-2008, 12:10 AM	#12
TCguy User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SW Oregon Posts: 22 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Thanks Mike...I'll check it out. I don't think the 1914 has any numbers on the bottom , the 1917 has numbers but they do not match the gun.