Let's play...What's my Luger worth!?!

LugerCurious · 10-22-2010, 02:28 AM

My grandfather took this gun from a dead Nazi. My family wants to know what it is worth...

Luger ID form questions:
1. Toggle Inscription - 42
2. Chamber Inscription - 1940
3. Toggle Knob Type (“Smooth Dished”, or “Squared and Knurled”)
4. Grip Safety (“Present” or “Not Present5. Stock Lug (“Present” or “Not Present”)
6. Caliber (“9mm” or “7.65mm /.30 Luger”)
7. Grip Type Walnut or Beech, Smooth or Checkered, With or Without a Border, or Plastic in brown or
black, With or Without Insignia
8. Thumb Safety (“Safe” in forward or rear position, Describe Markings - rear "GESICHERT" (in yellow)
9. Describe any and all marking as completely as possible, including their locations on the firearm. Use
Numbered Markings from Parabellum website if possible - Manufactuerer logo= "42" (Mauser) code; Proof = #46 from proof list and under first two eagle markings the number 655 appears. There is no number under the third eagle.
10. Barrel Length (Measure from Forward End of Extractor to Muzzle - 4 inches
11. Markings on Left Edge of Extractor - ?? not sure what this means?
12. Description of Front and Rear Sights - ??
13. Magazine Bottom Plug Material and Markings - Both mags have Nazi Eagle symbol with aluminum bottom plug and serial numbers matching the gun.

....Using these criteria, describe the condition of your Luger as objectively as possible:
85-95% of bluing remaining, it appears that the wear is from the holster. No straw colored finish (discontinued after 1937). Bore is excellent, rifling is sharp and bore shines. Grips are dirty, but the checkering is sharp. All parts have matching serial numbers (same last two digits of 49). Has 2 correct magazines with matching serial numbers. Has holster and loading/take-down tool.

I am going to upload pics next...

Edward Tinker · 10-22-2010, 02:45 AM

yes, pictures are needed.

As original finsih makes a huge difference (i have had someone say it was original finish and it was nickled)

The questions (which I see above are answered) Is it all matching? Is the magazine matching?

Does it have a holster, tool or extra magazine with it?

Welcome to the forum.

$900-$1800

Everything depends on condition, all parts matching, to include firing pin, the take down pin for the toggle, etc.

LugerCurious · 10-22-2010, 03:05 AM

Here are my first set of pics...

LugerCurious · 10-22-2010, 03:09 AM

Second set of pics...

LugerCurious · 10-22-2010, 03:10 AM

Final pics, unless you need more...

Jason L · 10-22-2010, 06:22 AM

Hi,
For me the most important part of this rig are the mag bottoms. Can you post better more detailed pics of them? The pistol looks pretty nice from what you have shown.
Cheers,
Jason

John Sabato · 10-22-2010, 11:53 AM

With the exception of the one dent in one of the magazine tubes the pistol looks like it is in very nice condition... I will let those who are active in collecting and trading value the gun for you. I hope it is only for insurance purposes... a family heirloom like that should never leave your family. It is a part of not only your Grandfather's history, but world history. It could never be replaced.

LugerCurious · 10-22-2010, 12:04 PM

Thanks for your feedback so far...we are planning on keeping it in the family, but one family member wants to buy it from another so we need a value to assign to it. Please let me know if there is any other information you need to appraise it!

tharpo · 10-22-2010, 12:27 PM

Hi,
Looks like a very nice early 1940 in the no suffix block with two matching magazines. If you offered it for sale on this Forum for $3,300+ I would think you would get a buyer.

Tom

Edward Tinker · 10-22-2010, 12:30 PM

with additional pictures, $2000 would be a cheap price for 2 matching magazine 1940/42 in my opinion if keeping in the family and although not as high as above, $2800-$3000 does not sound unreasonable to me retail...

Jason L · 10-22-2010, 09:07 PM

Nice . 3k is about right.....please consider me if you decide to sell.

Curly1 · 10-22-2010, 09:35 PM

Simpsons has one going closer to 5K

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...70ded60ba7804e

10-22-2010, 02:28 AM	#1
LugerCurious User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Let's play...What's my Luger worth!?! My grandfather took this gun from a dead Nazi. My family wants to know what it is worth... Luger ID form questions: 1. Toggle Inscription - 42 2. Chamber Inscription - 1940 3. Toggle Knob Type (“Smooth Dished”, or “Squared and Knurled”) 4. Grip Safety (“Present” or “Not Present5. Stock Lug (“Present” or “Not Present”) 6. Caliber (“9mm” or “7.65mm /.30 Luger”) 7. Grip Type Walnut or Beech, Smooth or Checkered, With or Without a Border, or Plastic in brown or black, With or Without Insignia 8. Thumb Safety (“Safe” in forward or rear position, Describe Markings - rear "GESICHERT" (in yellow) 9. Describe any and all marking as completely as possible, including their locations on the firearm. Use Numbered Markings from Parabellum website if possible - Manufactuerer logo= "42" (Mauser) code; Proof = #46 from proof list and under first two eagle markings the number 655 appears. There is no number under the third eagle. 10. Barrel Length (Measure from Forward End of Extractor to Muzzle - 4 inches 11. Markings on Left Edge of Extractor - ?? not sure what this means? 12. Description of Front and Rear Sights - ?? 13. Magazine Bottom Plug Material and Markings - Both mags have Nazi Eagle symbol with aluminum bottom plug and serial numbers matching the gun. ....Using these criteria, describe the condition of your Luger as objectively as possible: 85-95% of bluing remaining, it appears that the wear is from the holster. No straw colored finish (discontinued after 1937). Bore is excellent, rifling is sharp and bore shines. Grips are dirty, but the checkering is sharp. All parts have matching serial numbers (same last two digits of 49). Has 2 correct magazines with matching serial numbers. Has holster and loading/take-down tool. I am going to upload pics next...

10-22-2010, 02:45 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	yes, pictures are needed. As original finsih makes a huge difference (i have had someone say it was original finish and it was nickled) The questions (which I see above are answered) Is it all matching? Is the magazine matching? Does it have a holster, tool or extra magazine with it? Welcome to the forum. $900-$1800 Everything depends on condition, all parts matching, to include firing pin, the take down pin for the toggle, etc. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-22-2010, 03:05 AM	#3
LugerCurious User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First set of pics Here are my first set of pics... Attached Thumbnails

10-22-2010, 03:10 AM	#5
LugerCurious User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Final pics... Final pics, unless you need more... Attached Thumbnails

10-22-2010, 11:53 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	With the exception of the one dent in one of the magazine tubes the pistol looks like it is in very nice condition... I will let those who are active in collecting and trading value the gun for you. I hope it is only for insurance purposes... a family heirloom like that should never leave your family. It is a part of not only your Grandfather's history, but world history. It could never be replaced. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-22-2010, 03:09 AM	#4
LugerCurious User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	second set of pics Second set of pics... Attached Thumbnails

10-22-2010, 06:22 AM	#6
Jason L User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CT. USA Posts: 66 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Hi, For me the most important part of this rig are the mag bottoms. Can you post better more detailed pics of them? The pistol looks pretty nice from what you have shown. Cheers, Jason

10-22-2010, 12:04 PM	#8
LugerCurious User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks so far... Thanks for your feedback so far...we are planning on keeping it in the family, but one family member wants to buy it from another so we need a value to assign to it. Please let me know if there is any other information you need to appraise it! Attached Thumbnails

10-22-2010, 12:27 PM	#9
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 541 Thanks: 116 Thanked 382 Times in 157 Posts	Hi, Looks like a very nice early 1940 in the no suffix block with two matching magazines. If you offered it for sale on this Forum for $3,300+ I would think you would get a buyer. Tom

10-22-2010, 12:30 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	with additional pictures, $2000 would be a cheap price for 2 matching magazine 1940/42 in my opinion if keeping in the family and although not as high as above, $2800-$3000 does not sound unreasonable to me retail...

10-22-2010, 09:07 PM	#11
Jason L User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CT. USA Posts: 66 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Nice . 3k is about right.....please consider me if you decide to sell.

10-22-2010, 09:35 PM	#12
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,234 Thanks: 116 Thanked 706 Times in 368 Posts	Simpsons has one going closer to 5K http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...70ded60ba7804e __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary