Intersting Holster

pappers1 · 09-21-2014, 05:30 PM

I was looking for a holster for a 1915 DWM and ran across this on ebay. I could not find to much info on J.Sigle&Cei, but that he was well know for his shoe making. but must have made holster for the luger P08.

Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271609238281...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

JTD · 09-21-2014, 07:32 PM

I think someone is paying some tuition to luger university on that one. John

lfid · 09-21-2014, 07:46 PM

yes, kind of cool holster, nice appearance, but some red ? flags ...

WaA mark on a 1916 dated holster seems incorrect as WaA system marks seems started after 1933 ( so perhaps sales talk could include that it was reworked, etc )

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Waffenamt_co...apn&ap=ask.com ( and various others )
also seems WaA136 is for
aA136 cdg Auwärter und Bubeck Stuttgart 1934
WaA136 Hans Deuter Augsburg 1934

try google image search with "holster WaA136"
random sample has a backside marking on image #4 that looks much different
http://www.luftwaffe-militaria.com/f...uipment/76.htm

but ebay seller has 14 days return marked and 100% lots of sales ok

about 15 hours to go - I suspect one of the holster gurus here will respond - it is an interesting case

I was also curious, but wont be bidding, have no involvement in the sale , etc

happy hunting !
Bill

JTD · 09-21-2014, 07:58 PM

Got the stamp, may as well use it.............
Keep picking at it, you will find more issues.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-21-2014, 08:12 PM

A fool and his money will soon part ways...

pappers1 · 09-21-2014, 08:19 PM

Thanks Bill, for the links......Im not bidding either...

Ben M. · 09-22-2014, 12:07 PM

i think the mag pouch was not part of same piece of leather of the back until in the 1920s sometime? shape of knot on pulling strap is not right shape too.

JTD · 09-22-2014, 08:15 PM

Yes Ben on both counts(mid 30's I believe ).. Bill caught the Waa 0n a 1916 holster thing. The list goes on and on....

Norme · 09-22-2014, 08:33 PM

Here's a test for you guys, how do you tell the difference between an Imperial and a Third Reich P08 holster from the front?
Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair · 09-22-2014, 10:32 PM

Too easy. I won't spoil your fun.

Ben M. · 09-23-2014, 12:35 PM

does the wwi holster have a third short line of stitches on the buckle closing strap? this extra line is in the middle of the other two lines.

here some samples

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GERMAN-WW1-O...item54106db13a

http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-War-I-...item3a97612fbf

Norme · 09-23-2014, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

does the wwi holster have a third short line of stitches on the buckle closing strap? this extra line is in the middle of the other two lines.

here some samples

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GERMAN-WW1-O...item54106db13a

http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-War-I-...item3a97612fbf

Give that man a cigar!
Congrats, Norm

DavidJayUden · 09-23-2014, 04:48 PM

Good job Ben!
dju

Ben M. · 09-23-2014, 06:53 PM

good! i couldnt come up with any thing else from the front.

pappers1 · 09-23-2014, 07:43 PM

I was looking for a hour and did not see that....Thanks

09-21-2014, 05:30 PM	#1
pappers1 User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: PA, USA Posts: 32 Thanks: 14 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Intersting Holster I was looking for a holster for a 1915 DWM and ran across this on ebay. I could not find to much info on J.Sigle&Cei, but that he was well know for his shoe making. but must have made holster for the luger P08. Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271609238281...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

09-21-2014, 08:12 PM	#5
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09-22-2014, 10:32 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,926 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Too easy. I won't spoil your fun. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-21-2014, 07:32 PM	#2
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	I think someone is paying some tuition to luger university on that one. John

09-21-2014, 07:46 PM	#3
lfid Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 453 Thanks: 573 Thanked 96 Times in 53 Posts	yes, kind of cool holster, nice appearance, but some red ? flags ... WaA mark on a 1916 dated holster seems incorrect as WaA system marks seems started after 1933 ( so perhaps sales talk could include that it was reworked, etc ) http://www.ask.com/wiki/Waffenamt_co...apn&ap=ask.com ( and various others ) also seems WaA136 is for aA136 cdg Auwärter und Bubeck Stuttgart 1934 WaA136 Hans Deuter Augsburg 1934 try google image search with "holster WaA136" random sample has a backside marking on image #4 that looks much different http://www.luftwaffe-militaria.com/f...uipment/76.htm but ebay seller has 14 days return marked and 100% lots of sales ok about 15 hours to go - I suspect one of the holster gurus here will respond - it is an interesting case I was also curious, but wont be bidding, have no involvement in the sale , etc happy hunting ! Bill

09-21-2014, 07:58 PM	#4
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	Got the stamp, may as well use it............. Keep picking at it, you will find more issues.

09-21-2014, 08:19 PM	#6
pappers1 User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: PA, USA Posts: 32 Thanks: 14 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Thanks Bill, for the links......Im not bidding either...

09-22-2014, 12:07 PM	#7
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 87 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	i think the mag pouch was not part of same piece of leather of the back until in the 1920s sometime? shape of knot on pulling strap is not right shape too.

09-22-2014, 08:15 PM	#8
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	Yes Ben on both counts(mid 30's I believe ).. Bill caught the Waa 0n a 1916 holster thing. The list goes on and on....

09-22-2014, 08:33 PM	#9
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Here's a test for you guys, how do you tell the difference between an Imperial and a Third Reich P08 holster from the front? Regards, Norm

09-23-2014, 12:35 PM	#11
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 87 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	does the wwi holster have a third short line of stitches on the buckle closing strap? this extra line is in the middle of the other two lines. here some samples http://www.ebay.com/itm/GERMAN-WW1-O...item54106db13a http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-War-I-...item3a97612fbf

09-23-2014, 04:48 PM	#13
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Good job Ben! dju

09-23-2014, 06:53 PM	#14
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 87 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	good! i couldnt come up with any thing else from the front.

09-23-2014, 07:43 PM	#15
pappers1 User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: PA, USA Posts: 32 Thanks: 14 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I was looking for a hour and did not see that....Thanks