Artillery WW2 pictures

Edward Tinker · 12-09-2004, 11:45 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...293180120&rd=1

This is an interesting item on e-bay. I think of artillery's as being WW1, but this is the 2nd time at least that I have heard of artillerys being brought back / used in WW2.

How common was this?

Obviously an artillery was picked up and probably used by the germans. Is that so?

Ed

pisto · 12-10-2004, 02:25 PM

Ed, not easy to tell what the pictureÃ?Â´s history really is!
On the end of WWII much things where collected as war souveniers from German houses - there may hve been some Guns from WWI remaining.
I never have heard they still used the Arty in WWII.

Danny R. Bowles · 12-13-2004, 11:29 PM

I saw a reel on the history channel with a German SS officer holding one when he got out of the motor car. He was going into someones quarters after the assination attempt on the Furher. DB

Edward Tinker · 12-13-2004, 11:31 PM

Thanks Danny, that is interesting

Ed

John -Melb · 12-14-2004, 09:08 AM

I seem to recall somewhere an Arty Luger that turned up in Canada, the property of an ex-Canadian officer, if my memory serves me correctly this Arty was taken from a POW Camp guard at the end of the war. Does anybody remember the facts, I'm sure I read it on the Forum.

I saw a photo once of crew members from a German commerce raider, possibly SMS Kormoran, cannot remember much but it was taken on board. I'm sure one of the sailors was wearing an Arty.

George Anderson · 12-15-2004, 02:58 PM

John, I believe the SMS Kormoran was an Imperial auxilliary cruiser in the first war. It operated in your part of the world but never took any prizes or sank anything. It was interned in American Samoa in 14 or 15 and then scuttled by the crew in 17 when the US entered the war.

LP08s were used by the German Navy during the second war, I have one so marked. These are really not that uncommon.

mauro · 12-15-2004, 04:51 PM

Hello Fellows,
I would like to highlight that in the 1942-43 some LP08 were modified with an automatic device. One of these pistols is in the Mr. Regnier collection, the number 9. I have analyzed this pistol during a visit I have done to Mr. Regnierlast year. I have presented this pistol at page 67, 68, 69 and 70 of my book. It seems that this lp08 was captured in French on 1944.
In addition this pistol has been presented by Mr. Gortz in an article in the prestigious Deutsches Waffen-Journal (August Ã¢?? October 1981).
This to stress that some LP08 were used during the WWII as well.
Ciao
Mauro

Edward Tinker · 12-16-2004, 01:16 PM

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/artillerypictureebt.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/artillerypictureebt.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

An eagle eye member spotted this, a Yugoslav unit from WW2 and that sure looks like a Artillery Holster to me?

Ed

John Sabato · 12-16-2004, 03:05 PM

The shape doesn't look correct to me for an Artillery Holster... maybe a Mauser c96...

but the soldier is obviously carrying and using a centerfire rifle... I can't imagine carrying a heavy pistol/stock/holster combination like an Artillery Luger unless it were my primary weapon.

Just my

George Anderson · 12-16-2004, 04:18 PM

I have to agree with John that it does not look like an LP08 holster but I don't know that it looks like a C96 either. Perhaps a flare gun or some sort of equipment case?

Edward Tinker · 12-16-2004, 04:31 PM

Yes, it is awful big, and might be because I "wanted" it to be a artillery luger!

Ed

12-09-2004, 11:45 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Artillery WW2 pictures http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...293180120&rd=1 This is an interesting item on e-bay. I think of artillery's as being WW1, but this is the 2nd time at least that I have heard of artillerys being brought back / used in WW2. How common was this? Obviously an artillery was picked up and probably used by the germans. Is that so? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-13-2004, 11:29 PM	#3
Danny R. Bowles User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern West Va Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I saw a reel on the history channel with a German SS officer holding one when he got out of the motor car. He was going into someones quarters after the assination attempt on the Furher. DB __________________ drb

12-13-2004, 11:31 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Thanks Danny, that is interesting Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-15-2004, 04:51 PM	#7
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Hello Fellows, I would like to highlight that in the 1942-43 some LP08 were modified with an automatic device. One of these pistols is in the Mr. Regnier collection, the number 9. I have analyzed this pistol during a visit I have done to Mr. Regnierlast year. I have presented this pistol at page 67, 68, 69 and 70 of my book. It seems that this lp08 was captured in French on 1944. In addition this pistol has been presented by Mr. Gortz in an article in the prestigious Deutsches Waffen-Journal (August Ã¢?? October 1981). This to stress that some LP08 were used during the WWII as well. Ciao Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

12-16-2004, 01:16 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/artillerypictureebt.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/artillerypictureebt.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> An eagle eye member spotted this, a Yugoslav unit from WW2 and that sure looks like a Artillery Holster to me? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-10-2004, 02:25 PM	#2
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ed, not easy to tell what the pictureÃ?Â´s history really is! On the end of WWII much things where collected as war souveniers from German houses - there may hve been some Guns from WWI remaining. I never have heard they still used the Arty in WWII.

12-14-2004, 09:08 AM	#5
John -Melb User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Peoples Republic of Australia! Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I seem to recall somewhere an Arty Luger that turned up in Canada, the property of an ex-Canadian officer, if my memory serves me correctly this Arty was taken from a POW Camp guard at the end of the war. Does anybody remember the facts, I'm sure I read it on the Forum. I saw a photo once of crew members from a German commerce raider, possibly SMS Kormoran, cannot remember much but it was taken on board. I'm sure one of the sailors was wearing an Arty.

12-15-2004, 02:58 PM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	John, I believe the SMS Kormoran was an Imperial auxilliary cruiser in the first war. It operated in your part of the world but never took any prizes or sank anything. It was interned in American Samoa in 14 or 15 and then scuttled by the crew in 17 when the US entered the war. LP08s were used by the German Navy during the second war, I have one so marked. These are really not that uncommon.

12-16-2004, 03:05 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	The shape doesn't look correct to me for an Artillery Holster... maybe a Mauser c96... but the soldier is obviously carrying and using a centerfire rifle... I can't imagine carrying a heavy pistol/stock/holster combination like an Artillery Luger unless it were my primary weapon. Just my __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-16-2004, 04:18 PM	#10
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	I have to agree with John that it does not look like an LP08 holster but I don't know that it looks like a C96 either. Perhaps a flare gun or some sort of equipment case?

12-16-2004, 04:31 PM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Yes, it is awful big, and might be because I "wanted" it to be a artillery luger! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV