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11-25-2005, 11:54 AM | #1 |
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Curious Mag...???
Anyone seen another one like this ?
Paticularly of interest to me are those "9 m/m" stampings...have folks seen this style on other magagines before ? Any book references ? http://cgi.ebay.com/WWI-Luger-Cal-9M...QQcmdZViewItem |
11-25-2005, 01:13 PM | #2 |
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Pete,
9m/m script magazines are found in 1902 Fat Barrels, 1906 Commercial and AE, and 1906 Russian. It is a commercial magazine. I haven't seen a 9m/m Navy before. I am pretty sure you will find them referenced in most Luger books.
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Kenyon (p.92) notes that some 1906 Navy Commercials were provided with magazines like this.
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One pristine commercial Navy changed hands at the recent Reno show with such a magazine.
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Hi Pete.....It should read............Cal. 9m/m on the mag bottom. I do not see the "cal." on this particular mag.
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Leo,
A good point, and one I glossed over in my Kenyon reference (he does, indeed, say "Cal. 9m/m". Note who the seller is. --Dwight |
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Dwight..I rest my case.
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He says it has "Cal 9mm" on the bottom, but darned if I can see the "Cal".
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I was checking to see which Members were awake...
I thought it should read "Cal 9m/m" as well... Ed...the trouble with whiting (and now...your yellowing) is you cannot see the real nature of the stampings underneath... |
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OK, you caught me napping Guess I shoulda known you wouldn't ask such a basic question without a trick up your sleeve! I took too quick of a look and just assumed the "Cal" didn't show up on the picture.
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11-26-2005, 12:08 AM | #11 |
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I'm curious to know how the 9m/m compare to the stamping of an original. I've gone through my library and can't find a picture of one, anybody got one they can post?
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Dwight.........If Pete will assist me in posting a picture I will send one to him.
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Whoa Nellie! If I am not missing something, I was under the impression that the Navy commercial originally had the "Cal 9mm" stamped on the bottom of a commercial non-concentric circled magazine! I have never seen or heard of such a stamping on a "real" concentric ringed magazine. And yes, it SHOULD have the "Cal" there. The 9mm stamping looks very sharp and fresh and with the previous caveats regarding the seller, I would look at this magazine with utmost suspicion and doubt at to its originality.
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According to Mr. Kenyon on page 92 of his book LAR the wood bottom is concentric ringed.
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I will check with a noted authority on this subject (Mike Krause) and get back later.
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You will find Cal 9MM on both type mags if you examine enough samples.
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Tom Armstrong is absolutely correct and Mike Krause concurs. He also said that the "9mm" without the associated "Cal" should be viewed as highly suspect.
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Doc,
Do not forget we know of a fellow that sells nice "Cal 9m/m" wooden magazines from the MO area as well...(i.e. NOT Tom Heller...). I think you even have a copy of his order list... Nice, new sharp stampings in the wood should typically be the tip-off... |
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Pete, do you mean the gentleman who fixes that million dollar chip on grips and reworks 1920 commercials to the buyer's specifications?
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Hope this e-Bay seller is not a LF member :
" us2008 " He is going for it to the tune of $ 400... |
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