Curious Mag...???
 

Anyone seen another one like this ?

Paticularly of interest to me are those "9 m/m" stampings...have folks seen this style on other magagines before ? Any book references ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWI-Luger-Cal-9M...QQcmdZViewItem

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/kontos_mag_2.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/kontos_mag_1.jpg

Pete,
9m/m script magazines are found in 1902 Fat Barrels, 1906 Commercial and AE, and 1906 Russian. It is a commercial magazine. I haven't seen a 9m/m Navy before. I am pretty sure you will find them referenced in most Luger books.

Kenyon (p.92) notes that some 1906 Navy Commercials were provided with magazines like this.

--Dwight

One pristine commercial Navy changed hands at the recent Reno show with such a magazine.

Hi Pete.....It should read............Cal. 9m/m on the mag bottom. I do not see the "cal." on this particular mag.

Leo

Leo,

A good point, and one I glossed over in my Kenyon reference (he does, indeed, say "Cal. 9m/m".

Note who the seller is.

--Dwight

Dwight..I rest my case.

Leo

He says it has "Cal 9mm" on the bottom, but darned if I can see the "Cal".

I was checking to see which Members were awake...

I thought it should read "Cal 9m/m" as well...

Ed...the trouble with whiting (and now...your yellowing) is you cannot see the real nature of the stampings underneath...;)

OK, you caught me napping:o Guess I shoulda known you wouldn't ask such a basic question without a trick up your sleeve!:p I took too quick of a look and just assumed the "Cal" didn't show up on the picture.

I'm curious to know how the 9m/m compare to the stamping of an original. I've gone through my library and can't find a picture of one, anybody got one they can post?

--Dwight

Dwight.........If Pete will assist me in posting a picture I will send one to him.

Leo

Whoa Nellie! If I am not missing something, I was under the impression that the Navy commercial originally had the "Cal 9mm" stamped on the bottom of a commercial non-concentric circled magazine! I have never seen or heard of such a stamping on a "real" concentric ringed magazine. And yes, it SHOULD have the "Cal" there. The 9mm stamping looks very sharp and fresh and with the previous caveats regarding the seller, I would look at this magazine with utmost suspicion and doubt at to its originality.

According to Mr. Kenyon on page 92 of his book LAR the wood bottom is concentric ringed.

Leo

I will check with a noted authority on this subject (Mike Krause) and get back later.

You will find Cal 9MM on both type mags if you examine enough samples.

Tom A

Tom Armstrong is absolutely correct and Mike Krause concurs. He also said that the "9mm" without the associated "Cal" should be viewed as highly suspect.

Doc,

Do not forget we know of a fellow that sells nice "Cal 9m/m" wooden magazines from the MO area as well...(i.e. NOT Tom Heller...). I think you even have a copy of his order list...

Nice, new sharp stampings in the wood should typically be the tip-off...

Pete, do you mean the gentleman who fixes that million dollar chip on grips and reworks 1920 commercials to the buyer's specifications?

Hope this e-Bay seller is not a LF member :

" us2008 "

He is going for it to the tune of $ 400...