Need info on DWM please

windsor311 · 02-21-2012, 09:19 PM

To say I'm new to Luger is an understatement. I just help the first one yesterday and have a chance to buy but neither seller nor I know a darn thing. I joined here and I've been doing some research but my god is there A LOT to absorb here. Im going to post some pics and hope for some/any info from you guys. The pistol looks beautiful for 1915. All parts stamped and match. No stamps or marking on front or rear straps.

alanint · 02-21-2012, 09:41 PM

Welcome to the forum!

You have a very nice DWM 1915 Luger with original finish. Does the magazine have a matching number?

Other than this, what do you wish to know about your pistol?

mrerick · 02-21-2012, 10:39 PM

Also, you'll want to check internal parts to see if they are numbered properly. You'll find dis-assembly instructions on this site.

Marc

windsor311 · 02-21-2012, 10:53 PM

Thank you for the welcome..... I guess I was wondering is it a Military model, what could be an approximate value based on these pics (ballpark), what are the markings on it or the meaning of them, collector, collectable, shooter, ??? I can't see any numbers on magazine and it looks like the wood on bettom of mag did break but was glued back on.... It took a while to open the action. Seemed gummed up but it eventually opened and locked back but does not every time. When closed, if you pull trigger, it does not seem like firing pin releases. The trigger moves back but nothing happens...
Does that help?

windsor311 · 02-21-2012, 10:55 PM

Some more pics

DavidJayUden · 02-21-2012, 10:56 PM

A German military 9mm gun, if matching except mag. worth (ballpark) around $1000, with matching mag. add a couple to four hundred. If internals are mismatched deduct a couple hundred. Overall from what we are seeing it looks nice. Any markings on the grip straps? A couple of pictures showing the entire gun (and accessories) might tell us something too.
Welcome, and feel freel to ask questions.
dju

DavidJayUden · 02-21-2012, 10:59 PM

Sounds like it may be a bit gummed up inside. Search this site and YouTube for disassembly instructions and take a toothbrush and some powder solvent to the parts. It should work a lot better then.

windsor311 · 02-21-2012, 11:00 PM

2 more of an unknown marking

windsor311 · 02-21-2012, 11:03 PM

Thanks for the help here. I really appreciate it. There are no markings on front or back strap. I'm going to lube the internals a bit with some CLP and see if she loosens a bit. Stocks are not chipped at all. I'm guessing that the take-down lever on left side ahead of trigger housing is gummed as well because there is no play/movement at all.....

windsor311 · 02-21-2012, 11:19 PM

I stand corrected.... It looks like there is a number stamped into wood on very bottom of magazine but there are marks/dings on bottom that obscure the number. Would it be 2 numbers like all othere parts?

DavidJayUden · 02-22-2012, 12:33 AM

All 4 numbers plus the suffix letter on the magazine.

alanint · 02-22-2012, 06:21 AM

Do NOT try and force the take-down lever! It will move freely if you push the muzzle against something like a wood tabletop or other object that will not marr the finish.

If I'm sure the gun is empty, I simply push the muzzle back with the palm of one hand while lowering the take-down lever with the other.

windsor311 · 02-22-2012, 10:02 AM

Anyone have info on any of these proof marks? Is there a chart I can look at?

Lugerdoc · 02-22-2012, 11:14 AM

The eagle on top of the barrel should be the same one as the forward eagle on the right receiver and was indicates proof firing and military acceptance. TH

Douglas Jr. · 02-22-2012, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windsor311

Anyone have info on any of these proof marks? Is there a chart I can look at?

Look at the left side of your screen. You'll see several links, click on "Technical Information". There you will find another link for a proof table chart ("Markings"). Plenty of info there.

Congratulations for your first Luger. Nice score for a first try!

Douglas.

windsor311 · 02-22-2012, 04:42 PM

Thanks Douglas.... And what do you mean my "first Luger"?

I swear.... This will be my only one....

alanint · 02-22-2012, 06:38 PM

No it won't.................

lugerholsterrepair · 02-22-2012, 09:27 PM

Like a potato chip..can't eat just one

FNorm · 02-22-2012, 10:02 PM

And don't dry fire it. Hold the toggle assembly as you close it, about 3/8 inch before fully closed you may feel a slight catch. At that point squeeze the trigger and complete the closing. Thus the FP is not back and spring loaded.

02-21-2012, 09:19 PM	#1
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need info on DWM please To say I'm new to Luger is an understatement. I just help the first one yesterday and have a chance to buy but neither seller nor I know a darn thing. I joined here and I've been doing some research but my god is there A LOT to absorb here. Im going to post some pics and hope for some/any info from you guys. The pistol looks beautiful for 1915. All parts stamped and match. No stamps or marking on front or rear straps. Attached Thumbnails

02-21-2012, 10:39 PM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Also, you'll want to check internal parts to see if they are numbered properly. You'll find dis-assembly instructions on this site. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

02-21-2012, 10:55 PM	#5
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Some more pics Attached Thumbnails

02-21-2012, 11:00 PM	#8
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	2 more of an unknown marking Attached Thumbnails

02-22-2012, 11:14 AM	#14
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The eagle on top of the barrel should be the same one as the forward eagle on the right receiver and was indicates proof firing and military acceptance. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-21-2012, 09:41 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Welcome to the forum! You have a very nice DWM 1915 Luger with original finish. Does the magazine have a matching number? Other than this, what do you wish to know about your pistol?

02-21-2012, 10:53 PM	#4
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for the welcome..... I guess I was wondering is it a Military model, what could be an approximate value based on these pics (ballpark), what are the markings on it or the meaning of them, collector, collectable, shooter, ??? I can't see any numbers on magazine and it looks like the wood on bettom of mag did break but was glued back on.... It took a while to open the action. Seemed gummed up but it eventually opened and locked back but does not every time. When closed, if you pull trigger, it does not seem like firing pin releases. The trigger moves back but nothing happens... Does that help?

02-21-2012, 10:56 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	A German military 9mm gun, if matching except mag. worth (ballpark) around $1000, with matching mag. add a couple to four hundred. If internals are mismatched deduct a couple hundred. Overall from what we are seeing it looks nice. Any markings on the grip straps? A couple of pictures showing the entire gun (and accessories) might tell us something too. Welcome, and feel freel to ask questions. dju

02-21-2012, 10:59 PM	#7
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Sounds like it may be a bit gummed up inside. Search this site and YouTube for disassembly instructions and take a toothbrush and some powder solvent to the parts. It should work a lot better then.

02-21-2012, 11:03 PM	#9
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the help here. I really appreciate it. There are no markings on front or back strap. I'm going to lube the internals a bit with some CLP and see if she loosens a bit. Stocks are not chipped at all. I'm guessing that the take-down lever on left side ahead of trigger housing is gummed as well because there is no play/movement at all.....

02-21-2012, 11:19 PM	#10
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I stand corrected.... It looks like there is a number stamped into wood on very bottom of magazine but there are marks/dings on bottom that obscure the number. Would it be 2 numbers like all othere parts?

02-22-2012, 12:33 AM	#11
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	All 4 numbers plus the suffix letter on the magazine.

02-22-2012, 06:21 AM	#12
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Do NOT try and force the take-down lever! It will move freely if you push the muzzle against something like a wood tabletop or other object that will not marr the finish. If I'm sure the gun is empty, I simply push the muzzle back with the palm of one hand while lowering the take-down lever with the other.

02-22-2012, 10:02 AM	#13
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anyone have info on any of these proof marks? Is there a chart I can look at?

02-22-2012, 04:42 PM	#16
windsor311 User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Douglas.... And what do you mean my "first Luger"? I swear.... This will be my only one....

02-22-2012, 06:38 PM	#17
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	No it won't.................

02-22-2012, 09:27 PM	#18
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02-22-2012, 10:02 PM	#19
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	And don't dry fire it. Hold the toggle assembly as you close it, about 3/8 inch before fully closed you may feel a slight catch. At that point squeeze the trigger and complete the closing. Thus the FP is not back and spring loaded.