disassembly 1929 Swiss commercial

champ7fc · 06-09-2004, 10:10 PM

Having trouble figuring out how to remove the thumb safety lever and the wrap around grip safety for cleaning purposes. The thumb safety is not secured by a pin as in the PO8. I do not want to risk scratching the finish. Anyone familiar with the disassembly of a 1929 Swiss???
Craig

Edward Tinker · 06-09-2004, 10:24 PM

No, but then unless really nasty, a basic disasembly is all I ever do, just a good cleaning, and cleaning with q-tips gets everything I am worried about.

IMHO, more guns are damaged by over cleaning than anything else.

ed

Pete Ebbink · 06-09-2004, 11:04 PM

Hello Craig,

Glad to hear you took the M1929 Bern plunge...!!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

When you have time, please do post some photos of your new luger...did you opt for a red Bern...? Or the commerical P-xxxxx series Bern...?

Unfortunately, I have never been brave enough to disassemble as far as you are considering...

If you do not get a reply here on the Forum, you might try this Swiss weapons web site :

http://pub18.ezboard.com/btheswissri...ommessageboard

Post in the "Other Swiss Arms" section for get the handgun folks' interest. There are some helpful folks there and many live in Switzerland...some with extensive gunsmithing experience...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

champ7fc · 06-10-2004, 08:47 AM

Thank you for the information. Pete; I did purchase the 1929 rig from my friends at Simpsons. The pistol is a commercial, ser# P26221. It is one of 100 manufactured in 1942. I would say it is in very good condition as well as the holster. BTW I am very pleased with the honesty of the people at Simpsons. I will post photos of my Luger collection as soon as I can find the time. Thank you for your help and advise.
Craig

Pete Ebbink · 06-10-2004, 01:19 PM

Hi Craig,

If you figure out the disassembly, please post and let us all know.

Nice M1929 Bern luger buy !!!

Here is the Simpson web site link to your pistol so other can see your purchase before you post photos of your own...

http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/...W-42/SW-42.htm

p.s. Do your magazines have a small swiss cross stamped into the dished portion of one of the magazine bottom "knobs" ? Also, do your magazines have the scriptic "P" stamped on the back spine of the tube, near the bottom ? I have two black magazines...one does, the other doesn't...

p.s.s. If you look inside the front frame well (where the take down latch runs through...), you should see a number stamping such as "6.42". This example indicates the gun was made in June 1942...what is your gun's stamping ?

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

champ7fc · 06-10-2004, 09:19 PM

The two magazines have a small swiss cross on the inside of the magazine knob and they both have the stylized P in the location that you indicated. The date in the well is 5. 43, so I would take it to mean it was produced in May of 1943. The weapon and holster are as good as the pictures indicate. I have dealt with Simpsons four times and have not been disapointed at any purchase. Good outfit.Thanks again Pete and I will ask for help on the website that you indicated.
Craig

Pete Ebbink · 06-13-2004, 12:42 PM

Here is the reply that Craig received from "Guisan" on the Swiss gun site :

" It is pretty easy to get both out, this is from the armourer's manual;

Safety lever
Taking apart
sliding out downward while in safe position.

Fitting
fitting the part from below and switch to safe position.

Grip safety
Taking apart
Take off both grips. Press the "wing" of the safety lever towards the frame. Lift out the notch from its hole and take off the grip safety.
Take off grip safety spring.

Fitting
Fit grip safety spring.
First put the grip safety under the safety lever, then slide upward and enter the notch in its hole.
Pay attention to the position of the grip safety which must be partly over the grip safety spring.
Check functioning.
Fit grips.

Thanks,
Guisan. "

06-09-2004, 10:10 PM	#1
champ7fc User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	disassembly 1929 Swiss commercial Having trouble figuring out how to remove the thumb safety lever and the wrap around grip safety for cleaning purposes. The thumb safety is not secured by a pin as in the PO8. I do not want to risk scratching the finish. Anyone familiar with the disassembly of a 1929 Swiss??? Craig __________________ cfm

06-09-2004, 10:24 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	No, but then unless really nasty, a basic disasembly is all I ever do, just a good cleaning, and cleaning with q-tips gets everything I am worried about. IMHO, more guns are damaged by over cleaning than anything else. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-10-2004, 08:47 AM	#4
champ7fc User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Thank you for the information. Pete; I did purchase the 1929 rig from my friends at Simpsons. The pistol is a commercial, ser# P26221. It is one of 100 manufactured in 1942. I would say it is in very good condition as well as the holster. BTW I am very pleased with the honesty of the people at Simpsons. I will post photos of my Luger collection as soon as I can find the time. Thank you for your help and advise. Craig __________________ cfm

06-10-2004, 09:19 PM	#6
champ7fc User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	The two magazines have a small swiss cross on the inside of the magazine knob and they both have the stylized P in the location that you indicated. The date in the well is 5. 43, so I would take it to mean it was produced in May of 1943. The weapon and holster are as good as the pictures indicate. I have dealt with Simpsons four times and have not been disapointed at any purchase. Good outfit.Thanks again Pete and I will ask for help on the website that you indicated. Craig __________________ cfm

06-09-2004, 11:04 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Craig, Glad to hear you took the M1929 Bern plunge...!!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> When you have time, please do post some photos of your new luger...did you opt for a red Bern...? Or the commerical P-xxxxx series Bern...? Unfortunately, I have never been brave enough to disassemble as far as you are considering... If you do not get a reply here on the Forum, you might try this Swiss weapons web site : http://pub18.ezboard.com/btheswissri...ommessageboard Post in the "Other Swiss Arms" section for get the handgun folks' interest. There are some helpful folks there and many live in Switzerland...some with extensive gunsmithing experience... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

06-10-2004, 01:19 PM	#5
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Craig, If you figure out the disassembly, please post and let us all know. Nice M1929 Bern luger buy !!! Here is the Simpson web site link to your pistol so other can see your purchase before you post photos of your own... http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/...W-42/SW-42.htm p.s. Do your magazines have a small swiss cross stamped into the dished portion of one of the magazine bottom "knobs" ? Also, do your magazines have the scriptic "P" stamped on the back spine of the tube, near the bottom ? I have two black magazines...one does, the other doesn't... p.s.s. If you look inside the front frame well (where the take down latch runs through...), you should see a number stamping such as "6.42". This example indicates the gun was made in June 1942...what is your gun's stamping ? Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

06-13-2004, 12:42 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Here is the reply that Craig received from "Guisan" on the Swiss gun site : " It is pretty easy to get both out, this is from the armourer's manual; Safety lever Taking apart sliding out downward while in safe position. Fitting fitting the part from below and switch to safe position. Grip safety Taking apart Take off both grips. Press the "wing" of the safety lever towards the frame. Lift out the notch from its hole and take off the grip safety. Take off grip safety spring. Fitting Fit grip safety spring. First put the grip safety under the safety lever, then slide upward and enter the notch in its hole. Pay attention to the position of the grip safety which must be partly over the grip safety spring. Check functioning. Fit grips. Thanks, Guisan. "