help me identify

Shawn Stanzel · 01-09-2007, 12:25 PM

I need help determining age or info on luger which belonged to my father.Here goes...4 1/2 inch barrell.stainless or chrome.eagle clutching branch and straw top of barrell.dwm in cursive on top.6141 on both barrell and front of trigger guard.wood grips.492 below rear sight.41 on other components.germany on end of magazine.thumb supressed spring on magazine.Any help appreciated...

Dwight Gruber · 01-09-2007, 01:02 PM

Shawn,

Welcome to the Forum.

This may be an interesting Luger, but we need a few more details. What caliber is this gun, .30 Luger or 9mm? Are you certain that the frame and barrel sn is only four digits? Is there posssibly a script letter suffix beneath the frame number? Is the gun marked GERMANY anywhere besides the magazine? Are the sides of the toggle knobs flat, or scooped out? Does the gun have a grip safety?

Do you have any pictures you can post?

--Dwight

Shawn Stanzel · 01-09-2007, 01:14 PM

I do not know the caliber.Frame and barrell serial numbers are only 4 digits.No script letter below frame number.If toggle knobs are located on end of magazine they are scooped out.I see Germany nowhere else besides on wooden knobs end of magazine.Yes does have grip safety.I will try to post pictures.THANKS

Edward Tinker · 01-09-2007, 03:17 PM

Shawn welcome to the forum.

I think pictures need to be shown, as sometimes a number is actually a letter,

Every year they made new numbers, that is why Dwight asked about the suffix (that said, I have an erfurt, sn 6141, so was funny to see the same numbers).

Your's sounds like a 1900 model....

Ed

Lugerdoc · 01-10-2007, 10:01 AM

If a M1900, 61xx should be a US test luger and no "Germany" stamped on the frame would be correct. Where is the take down lever numbered? TH

Dwight Gruber · 01-10-2007, 12:53 PM

Photos posted for Shawn

c3006 · 01-10-2007, 01:08 PM

That is quite painfull.

Ron Wood · 01-10-2007, 01:15 PM

Holy Toledo - another Test Luger! The list keeps on growing.

Edward Tinker · 01-10-2007, 01:37 PM

Shawn, being a test luger it attracts an audience, not as bad as Tac said $10,000, but probably a $2500 gun that is worth around $1000 now...

Its been buffed a bit bad...

Ed

Shawn Stanzel · 01-10-2007, 01:50 PM

Everybody has been very helpful.Thanks to everyone.Shawn.Texas.

George Anderson · 01-10-2007, 02:45 PM

What a freakin' shame.

Shawn Stanzel · 01-10-2007, 02:51 PM

OK guys here is a silly question.When my father obtained the gun it was already plated.Why would someone plate this gun?

c3006 · 01-10-2007, 03:18 PM

Because it just didnt matter way back then,If the eagle is not to far gone it would make a great restoration project. clint

01-09-2007, 12:25 PM	#1
Shawn Stanzel User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	help me identify I need help determining age or info on luger which belonged to my father.Here goes...4 1/2 inch barrell.stainless or chrome.eagle clutching branch and straw top of barrell.dwm in cursive on top.6141 on both barrell and front of trigger guard.wood grips.492 below rear sight.41 on other components.germany on end of magazine.thumb supressed spring on magazine.Any help appreciated...

01-10-2007, 10:01 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	If a M1900, 61xx should be a US test luger and no "Germany" stamped on the frame would be correct. Where is the take down lever numbered? TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-10-2007, 01:08 PM	#7
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	That is quite painfull. __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

01-10-2007, 01:15 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Holy Toledo - another Test Luger! The list keeps on growing. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-10-2007, 03:18 PM	#13
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Because it just didnt matter way back then,If the eagle is not to far gone it would make a great restoration project. clint __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

01-09-2007, 01:02 PM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Shawn, Welcome to the Forum. This may be an interesting Luger, but we need a few more details. What caliber is this gun, .30 Luger or 9mm? Are you certain that the frame and barrel sn is only four digits? Is there posssibly a script letter suffix beneath the frame number? Is the gun marked GERMANY anywhere besides the magazine? Are the sides of the toggle knobs flat, or scooped out? Does the gun have a grip safety? Do you have any pictures you can post? --Dwight

01-09-2007, 01:14 PM	#3
Shawn Stanzel User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I do not know the caliber.Frame and barrell serial numbers are only 4 digits.No script letter below frame number.If toggle knobs are located on end of magazine they are scooped out.I see Germany nowhere else besides on wooden knobs end of magazine.Yes does have grip safety.I will try to post pictures.THANKS

01-09-2007, 03:17 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Shawn welcome to the forum. I think pictures need to be shown, as sometimes a number is actually a letter, Every year they made new numbers, that is why Dwight asked about the suffix (that said, I have an erfurt, sn 6141, so was funny to see the same numbers). Your's sounds like a 1900 model.... Ed

01-10-2007, 12:53 PM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Photos posted for Shawn

01-10-2007, 01:37 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Shawn, being a test luger it attracts an audience, not as bad as Tac said $10,000, but probably a $2500 gun that is worth around $1000 now... Its been buffed a bit bad... Ed

01-10-2007, 01:50 PM	#10
Shawn Stanzel User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Everybody has been very helpful.Thanks to everyone.Shawn.Texas.

01-10-2007, 02:45 PM	#11
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	What a freakin' shame.

01-10-2007, 02:51 PM	#12
Shawn Stanzel User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK guys here is a silly question.When my father obtained the gun it was already plated.Why would someone plate this gun?