7.65 mm Luger

danhelminiak · 12-20-2005, 11:18 PM

I have a mint 7.65 mm Luger with matching numbers. It has the last two digits of the serial number stamped on all the parts of the gun. Have 3 clips and a 30 round snail clip. My father bought this in 1962. Any insight to what it's worth?

Ron Wood · 12-20-2005, 11:32 PM

It could be anything from 1900 to a 1920 or somewhere in between, and naturally prices will vary widely. Mint is sometimes in the eye of the beholder. Yours may be mint or it may be a rework. Folks here will need a lot more information about markings and if you can provide photos it will save a lot of question and answer sessions. Without photos at best you are going to get are very vague answers. The 30 round snail magazine is another matter. In good shape, not rusted or dented, and completely functional could be worth anywhere from $1000 to $1500 depending on condition.

Edward Tinker · 12-20-2005, 11:34 PM

(I will move this once you are approved for membership, as guests can post here).

The three magazines might be worth $20 each if aftermarket, and up to $125+ each if wood bottomed commerical mags.

The 30 round snail mag we'd like to see, but if a "trommel magazine", it is worth possibly more than the gun!

All depends on condition, originallity, etc.

Welcome to the forum!

Ed

Ron Wood · 12-20-2005, 11:40 PM

I will take all the mint 7.65mm 1900 Lugers you can find for $700

. (You forgot about the early ones Ed!)

danhelminiak · 12-20-2005, 11:48 PM

I'll send photos on Saturday. My Father asked if I could look into the value. He said there is a "N" under the serial number and a "Germany" on the gun. I remember the snail clip being an army green color. He'll possibly be interested in selling. He needs to purchase a positive traction rear end for his 1967 Camaro.

Thanks,

Dan

Edward Tinker · 12-20-2005, 11:48 PM

Ron, I know, but didn't want to change my posting too much after seeing what you said

ALL, depends on what it is. I am guessing a 1923 Commerical, so what I first said on value ($500-$700).

Do you know the serial number of it, that would tell us a lot.

I am actually looking for a nice commerical 30 luger, so....

weimar_simson@comcast.net

Ed

danhelminiak · 12-21-2005, 09:19 AM

Hi Ed,

I believe it's 2602. I'll see the gun this weekened.

danhelminiak · 12-25-2005, 11:32 PM

danhelminiak · 12-25-2005, 11:36 PM

Edward Tinker · 12-26-2005, 12:30 AM

Edward Tinker · 12-26-2005, 12:44 AM

more pictures for Dan;

hqbmw · 12-26-2005, 12:58 AM

Dan,

If you are going to sell the snail magazine, I am interested in it. I have an artilllery that it would match up to. You can contact me at:

hqbmw@cox.net

Thanks,
Jack Hiles
Mesa, AZ
480 219 6676

danhelminiak · 12-26-2005, 01:06 AM

He's like to sell everything. There are two magazines with aluminum bottoms, one with wood not matching, the snail magazine. We don't know what it's all worth? Give me a number and I'll have him call you.

danhelminiak · 12-26-2005, 01:09 AM

Thanks Ed, for helping with the photos

LU1900 · 12-26-2005, 01:25 AM

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George Anderson · 12-26-2005, 08:32 AM

Pat, the snail is correct, you have the second number upside down. It should read xxxx89. On type III Bings the serial number can be either near the "27" marking or under the cranking arm.

Edward Tinker · 12-26-2005, 08:45 AM

last photos Daniel sent;

danhelminiak · 12-27-2005, 10:02 PM

Can anyone date this gun for me?

Edward Tinker · 12-27-2005, 10:18 PM

Dan, forgot you wanted that. In Weimar Lugers it has the "n" suffix as being made in 1924.

Ed

danhelminiak · 12-27-2005, 10:49 PM

Thanks Ed, what exactly is a Weimar Luger?

12-20-2005, 11:18 PM	#1
danhelminiak User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Cerrito Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	7.65 mm Luger I have a mint 7.65 mm Luger with matching numbers. It has the last two digits of the serial number stamped on all the parts of the gun. Have 3 clips and a 30 round snail clip. My father bought this in 1962. Any insight to what it's worth?

12-20-2005, 11:32 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,010 Thanks: 1,088 Thanked 5,149 Times in 1,694 Posts	It could be anything from 1900 to a 1920 or somewhere in between, and naturally prices will vary widely. Mint is sometimes in the eye of the beholder. Yours may be mint or it may be a rework. Folks here will need a lot more information about markings and if you can provide photos it will save a lot of question and answer sessions. Without photos at best you are going to get are very vague answers. The 30 round snail magazine is another matter. In good shape, not rusted or dented, and completely functional could be worth anywhere from $1000 to $1500 depending on condition. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-20-2005, 11:40 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,010 Thanks: 1,088 Thanked 5,149 Times in 1,694 Posts	I will take all the mint 7.65mm 1900 Lugers you can find for $700 . (You forgot about the early ones Ed!) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-20-2005, 11:48 PM	#5
danhelminiak User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Cerrito Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks I'll send photos on Saturday. My Father asked if I could look into the value. He said there is a "N" under the serial number and a "Germany" on the gun. I remember the snail clip being an army green color. He'll possibly be interested in selling. He needs to purchase a positive traction rear end for his 1967 Camaro. Thanks, Dan

12-26-2005, 12:58 AM	#12
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dan, If you are going to sell the snail magazine, I am interested in it. I have an artilllery that it would match up to. You can contact me at: hqbmw@cox.net Thanks, Jack Hiles Mesa, AZ 480 219 6676 __________________ Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

12-20-2005, 11:34 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	(I will move this once you are approved for membership, as guests can post here). The three magazines might be worth $20 each if aftermarket, and up to $125+ each if wood bottomed commerical mags. The 30 round snail mag we'd like to see, but if a "trommel magazine", it is worth possibly more than the gun! All depends on condition, originallity, etc. Welcome to the forum! Ed

12-21-2005, 09:19 AM	#7
danhelminiak User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Cerrito Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Ed, I believe it's 2602. I'll see the gun this weekened.

12-25-2005, 11:32 PM	#8
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12-25-2005, 11:36 PM	#9
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12-26-2005, 12:30 AM	#10
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12-26-2005, 12:44 AM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	more pictures for Dan;

12-26-2005, 01:06 AM	#13
danhelminiak User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Cerrito Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	He's like to sell everything. There are two magazines with aluminum bottoms, one with wood not matching, the snail magazine. We don't know what it's all worth? Give me a number and I'll have him call you.

12-26-2005, 01:09 AM	#14
danhelminiak User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Cerrito Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Ed, for helping with the photos

12-26-2005, 01:25 AM	#15
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 906 Thanks: 39 Thanked 467 Times in 195 Posts	........ __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

12-26-2005, 08:32 AM	#16
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	Pat, the snail is correct, you have the second number upside down. It should read xxxx89. On type III Bings the serial number can be either near the "27" marking or under the cranking arm.

12-26-2005, 08:45 AM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	last photos Daniel sent;

12-27-2005, 10:02 PM	#18
danhelminiak User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Cerrito Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can anyone date this gun for me?

12-27-2005, 10:18 PM	#19
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Dan, forgot you wanted that. In Weimar Lugers it has the "n" suffix as being made in 1924. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-27-2005, 10:49 PM	#20
danhelminiak User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Cerrito Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Ed, what exactly is a Weimar Luger?