Loading Tool Question

sonofab-17pilot · 02-28-2011, 05:22 PM

What tool would be the correct match to a 1937 Milatery Luger and matching holster.
My first post here.
Doug

Norme · 02-28-2011, 07:34 PM

Hi Doug, Welcome to the forum. A tool like this one. Collectors call the inspection stamp DE/6 (Droop Eagle/63). Regards, Norm.

sonofab-17pilot · 03-01-2011, 06:55 AM

I am a little new to this, could you tell me why, what the marks stand for,etc.
I am going to a show this weekend with the best chance to find one that is correct.
Thanks, Doug

Edward Tinker · 03-01-2011, 07:03 AM

Take a look at the FAQ, won't help a lot, but some.

The marks are inspection markings, accepting it into military service, there are droop wing 63 and straight wing 63, as Norm said, a droop wing 63 would be most correct.

I always go by what is on the right of the gun, i.e. droop wing, straight wing, eagle 63, eagle 655, eagle 6, etc, although that is only a general guide.

A detailed guide on loading tools is in the works by a good friend or two and I need it, I have a heck of a time.

You see many standard, unmarked DWM's that have been stamped with fake markings.

ed

sonofab-17pilot · 03-02-2011, 05:48 PM

Can you show me a close up of the DE/63 mark ?

Doug

Lugerdoc · 03-02-2011, 08:19 PM

Doug, If you didn't find one at the show, I have them available. TH

Norme · 03-03-2011, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofab-17pilot

Can you show me a close up of the DE/63 mark ?

Doug

Hi Doug, The DE/63 should look like this. It seldom is this clear on hardened tools. Regards, Norm.

sonofab-17pilot · 03-03-2011, 06:45 AM

Norme, Tom
Thanks for your help, now I see what you are talking about.
I am looking for a tool and spare mag to purchase, my chance for finding one locally is slim to none.
Just for reference, there are two for sale on e-bay..., are they good ? Again, just for reference.
If you have one available and a good to period spare mag, let me know.
My luger is sn# 2470
ALL parts match #70
S/42
Magazine is 1988 aluminum base and an eagle/63

Doug

Norme · 03-03-2011, 09:08 AM

Hi Doug, Your gun's serial number most likely is followed by a suffix letter, visible on the front of the frame below the serial number, like the one shown. Military Lugers were numbered in blocks of 10,000, each one, except the first, followed by a suffix letter. To find a matching magazine (almost impossible), you need one with the same suffix. Regards, Norm.

sonofab-17pilot · 03-04-2011, 06:59 AM

Norme

Norme
Suffix letter is Y, magazine R, no +

Doug

Norme · 03-04-2011, 09:17 PM

Hi Doug, A DE/63 magazine in the same suffix block as your gun (y suffix) is probably the best you can hope to find. Even that is no easy task. Good luck! Norm.

sonofab-17pilot · 03-05-2011, 06:40 AM

Norme,
Thank you all for your advice. I have learned a lot here this week and boy can I feel myself getting drawn in.
Doug

02-28-2011, 05:22 PM	#1
sonofab-17pilot User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: East Norriton, Pa Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Loading Tool Question What tool would be the correct match to a 1937 Milatery Luger and matching holster. My first post here. Doug

02-28-2011, 07:34 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Doug, Welcome to the forum. A tool like this one. Collectors call the inspection stamp DE/6 (Droop Eagle/63). Regards, Norm. Attached Thumbnails

03-01-2011, 06:55 AM	#3
sonofab-17pilot User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: East Norriton, Pa Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger loading tool I am a little new to this, could you tell me why, what the marks stand for,etc. I am going to a show this weekend with the best chance to find one that is correct. Thanks, Doug

03-01-2011, 07:03 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Take a look at the FAQ, won't help a lot, but some. The marks are inspection markings, accepting it into military service, there are droop wing 63 and straight wing 63, as Norm said, a droop wing 63 would be most correct. I always go by what is on the right of the gun, i.e. droop wing, straight wing, eagle 63, eagle 655, eagle 6, etc, although that is only a general guide. A detailed guide on loading tools is in the works by a good friend or two and I need it, I have a heck of a time. You see many standard, unmarked DWM's that have been stamped with fake markings. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-02-2011, 05:48 PM	#5
sonofab-17pilot User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: East Norriton, Pa Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Loading Tool Can you show me a close up of the DE/63 mark ? Doug

03-02-2011, 08:19 PM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Doug, If you didn't find one at the show, I have them available. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-03-2011, 06:45 AM	#8
sonofab-17pilot User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: East Norriton, Pa Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Loading Tool Norme, Tom Thanks for your help, now I see what you are talking about. I am looking for a tool and spare mag to purchase, my chance for finding one locally is slim to none. Just for reference, there are two for sale on e-bay..., are they good ? Again, just for reference. If you have one available and a good to period spare mag, let me know. My luger is sn# 2470 ALL parts match #70 S/42 Magazine is 1988 aluminum base and an eagle/63 Doug

03-03-2011, 09:08 AM	#9
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Doug, Your gun's serial number most likely is followed by a suffix letter, visible on the front of the frame below the serial number, like the one shown. Military Lugers were numbered in blocks of 10,000, each one, except the first, followed by a suffix letter. To find a matching magazine (almost impossible), you need one with the same suffix. Regards, Norm. Attached Thumbnails

03-04-2011, 06:59 AM	#10
sonofab-17pilot User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: East Norriton, Pa Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Norme Norme Suffix letter is Y, magazine R, no + Doug Last edited by sonofab-17pilot; 03-04-2011 at 05:35 PM.

03-04-2011, 09:17 PM	#11
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,415 Thanks: 225 Thanked 2,594 Times in 931 Posts	Hi Doug, A DE/63 magazine in the same suffix block as your gun (y suffix) is probably the best you can hope to find. Even that is no easy task. Good luck! Norm.

03-05-2011, 06:40 AM	#12
sonofab-17pilot User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: East Norriton, Pa Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ist Luger Norme, Thank you all for your advice. I have learned a lot here this week and boy can I feel myself getting drawn in. Doug