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Grip safety 1920 Commercial
Just wanted to share pictures of this 1920 Commercial Luger:
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Very, very nice. Serial number?
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4004n, just 10 numbers apart from the one owned by Dr. Sturgess and sold at Julia auction a few months ago (3994n).
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That is a dandy! Congratulations and thanks for posting the photos. I assume it is 7.65mm?
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Thanks much for the serial# info. There are several of these grip safety Alphabet Commercials, and some other noteworthy variations, in the n suffix range. From your photos, your pistol is in nicer condition than 3994n.
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Dwight and Ron,
Thank you for your comments. Yes, the caliber is 7,65mm and this pistol is in better condition than the one from Dr. Sturgess collection. I think Dr. Sturgess' pistol was import marked since it came into US in 2013 for Julia Auction, right? Last edited by CLIFTON; 02-15-2014 at 05:23 PM. |
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Can you help me understand this alpha. 1920 Luger? It has an unrelieved sear bar, grip safety, and no stock lug. Isn't this a 1906 commercial? Thanks for your guidance. Mark |
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It is a 1906 "style" but the vertical Crown/N proof and the serial number launches it into the 1920s.
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Mark,
A 1920 P08 is a military or police pistol made in 1920 and so marked on the receiver. It has distinctive eagle/ArA4 acceptance marks, and has a no-suffix, a, or b serial number suffx. "1920 commercial" is an obsolescent term for commercial Lugers made between 1921 and 1929, with a four-digit-with-suffix serial number (beginning with the i suffix) and vertical c/N receiver proofs. Alhough the vast majority of them are P08s with stock lugs, there are noteworthy examples of New Model Parabellum-style pistols within this range, as shown here. --Dwight |
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Thank you Gentlemen.
Beautiful Luger! Mark |
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How many were made ?
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Database reports in the i suffix range are 24 Swiss and four commercial. There are also the known 100 Abercrombie & Fitch guns, several of which are in the database and not all of these are authentic. In the n suffix range there are reports of six Swiss and three commercial. --Dwight |
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Hi Dwight,
Thank you for the data. Mine is serial # 2842 I. It is in 100 % (New) original condition. Mirror Bore,mint grips. The mag has not had a cartridge in it. Sounds like they are rare. Bob |
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Do you have any idea how many of the commercial were made (excluding the Swiss and A&F)? So with mine that makes 8 recorded of the commercials? Thank you, Bob |
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Not a clue. Yes, eight recorded. --Dwight |
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Thanks for sharing with us the pictures of your beautiful Luger.
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simpsons web site has a bunch of these 1920s guns too for swiss. look at page 2,3 in their swiss section.
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