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cirelaw 05-17-2020 10:43 AM

Regimental Marking , When And By Whom?
 
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I own several unit marked lugers both on P08 and artillerys. Close to twenty years I have never seen the marking process explained.. Where were they applied? Factory or field? Did a particular regiment request them. When were they started and which are the rarest? Are there fakes?

gunbugs 05-17-2020 10:47 PM

I'll jump in and answer the last question first. Of course there are fakes. Anything that can be faked either has been, or will be faked.

cirelaw 05-18-2020 11:05 AM

How would you spot a fake?

hayhugh 05-18-2020 11:57 AM

You would know it was a fake because after doing due diligence: reading all available books on the subject and listing/reading all the knowledgeable questions and answers put to all the kind people on the "The Luger Forum" it would just be second nature...

George Anderson 05-18-2020 01:23 PM

I've only ever run across one faked unit marking and that one came for Minnie-sota.

cirelaw 05-18-2020 02:57 PM

George, All of my unit marked luger I purchased from you! That why I know are legit> In addition you supplied me with their individual unit history! None Better!

Doubs 05-18-2020 04:31 PM

When they left the factory, no one knew where they would go so they were marked at unit level by an armorer.

If the finish is original they will likely show a halo around the stamps as they were applied after the finish was on the gun.

cirelaw 05-18-2020 09:27 PM

Did regimental markings have halos?

Norme 05-18-2020 09:37 PM

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Almost always.

cirelaw 05-18-2020 09:50 PM

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Thank You Norm!

Ron Wood 05-18-2020 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 331587)
Did regimental markings have halos?

I think Doubs pretty well answered that question:
"If the finish is original they will likely show a halo around the stamps as they were applied after the finish was on the gun."

Here are a couple of mine.
Ron

Neil Young 05-18-2020 11:16 PM

Ron, I am suffering from a severe case of lust for the G.d. pistol. Not sorry.............

Ron Wood 05-19-2020 01:12 AM

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Niel,
I think you would make a spiffy looking Garde Grenadier in one of those tall funny looking Pope hats. I think they are called mitres...you mitre cut a dashing figure. :)
Ron

cirelaw 05-19-2020 12:03 PM

When did the emergence of halos begin ever cease or where there exceptions on some very early models? ie 1900 US Test~

JTD 05-19-2020 12:06 PM

Some nice pistols there Mr. Wood. Could you imagine trying to keep that on your head while on horseback? John

DavidJayUden 05-19-2020 10:43 PM

Throughout history, warriors have had some odd ideas on headgear, no?
dju

George Anderson 05-20-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JTD (Post 331599)
Some nice pistols there Mr. Wood. Could you imagine trying to keep that on your head while on horseback? John

Mitres were worn by straight legs.

JTD 05-20-2020 01:00 PM

Yea, thought of that after posting Geo.....

Heinz 05-20-2020 05:11 PM

Cirelaw. THe halo around the stamped letters is caused by the stamp being applied AFTER the surface was blued. Since regmental markings were applied after the gun had left factory and was blued, they always produce a halo becuase the disruption of the metal by the stamp stresses the oxide finish of the bluing. However, the halo can be very difficult to see and it can get very faint due to aging oxidizing the surface. Rebluing will also cover the halo. If you got it from George Anderson it is honest.
George; Washington PA produced some fake Unit Nmbers.

cirelaw 05-20-2020 06:37 PM

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TKS Heinz I agree with you as to regimental marking all others I have my doubts as to serial numbers and import marks, Don't forget the eagle! They all had to be prebluing! Thanks for your input! My 1902 Fat Barrel has no halos including a sharp 'GERMANY' '22713' TKS The last one isn't mine! Demonstration only!Legacy has a good example https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...at-barrel.html All imprints are sharp!


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