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Mac204 04-29-2018 06:04 PM

Finally, my first Luger
 
I love Lugers, but, until yesterday, I had never held one. I wanted my first to be a shooter. The dealer I bought it from said it was a parts gun - that there was probably no two parts being from the same gun. I don't mind that. It just gives me more to research!

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HerrKaiser 04-29-2018 09:07 PM

Oh my! The dished toggles on a shooter? That’s awesome. Congrats on your first Luger! Also recommend that you go get a Mac Gar magazine(s) to shoot from as your current magazine is a spare magazine for someone who owns a military pistol with that serial number and isn’t fit for shooting anyway.

DonVoigt 04-29-2018 09:13 PM

Actually there is no reason not to use the magazine he has, its aluminum base mag. is perfectly adequate for shooting .HK, you may be thinking of wood base magazines, on which the base sometimes cracks during use after these 70 or 110 years since they were made.

DavidJayUden 04-29-2018 09:32 PM

Yep, there is a lot of heritage in that one...
Looks like someone ground off the stock lug, but I'm not sure why the hole on the rear grip strap. Maybe they wanted to lighten the gun, so they also dished the toggles.
Does it shoot and function well?
dju

DonVoigt 04-29-2018 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 315806)
Yep, there is a lot of heritage in that one...
Looks like someone ground off the stock lug, but I'm not sure why the hole on the rear grip strap. Maybe they wanted to lighten the gun, so they also dished the toggles.
Does it shoot and function well?
dju

Grind too much and the "hole" appears on most all luged lugers.

hayhugh 04-30-2018 01:44 AM

Might want to install the trigger leaver pin properly.

DavidJayUden 04-30-2018 07:35 AM

Might want to install the trigger leaver pin properly.
Do you think it is bent or just rotated?

I see an interesting project gun. IF, and I repeat IF, it shoots and functions well, I'd get some gunsmith to salt blue it, restraw the small stuff myself, and have a real range queen.

Just my $.02
dju

alanint 04-30-2018 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 315820)
Might want to install the trigger leaver pin properly.
Do you think it is bent or just rotated?

I see an interesting project gun. IF, and I repeat IF, it shoots and functions well, I'd get some gunsmith to salt blue it, restraw the small stuff myself, and have a real range queen.

Just my $.02
dju

The pin is rotated. The bend should be down toward the bottom of the sideplate. If the dished toggles are authentic, I'm sure someone would trade you a newer toggle and then some for the chance to complete an older pistol. It is curious, as well, that the safety markings have been routed out.

ithacaartist 04-30-2018 12:30 PM

We need a closeup of the right toggle knob. Although it's not there now, I can't tell from the pic if there is any sign that the toggle lock was there.

DavidJayUden 04-30-2018 02:26 PM

The second photo seems to suggest that there is no toggle lock present on the right side toggle.
dju

Ron Wood 04-30-2018 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 315832)
The second photo seems to suggest that there is no toggle lock present on the right side toggle.
dju

Not only is there no toggle lock on the right side toggle, it is not even machined to have ever had a toggle lock. That is a strange piece.
Ron

Mac204 04-30-2018 03:59 PM

I haven't had a chance to fire it yet, however, it is a tight gun with next to no rattle. It chambered a round, extracted, and ejected well manually. I'd like to find out more info on the frame and toggle. Anyways. Someone asked for a few more closeups..

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...2FBCB7D99F.jpg
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kurusu 04-30-2018 04:16 PM

To me, that's everything a "shooter" Luger should not be.

An interesting "conversation piece" maybe.;)

Mac204 05-01-2018 10:00 PM

Well cool. I like interesting. I pulled the toggle and firing pin out and got some more pics. I'm wondering, how would you tell if the toggles are original or if they were machined out to replicate dished toggles? I know they aren't original to this frame.

The number here you can see is 01. The firing pin matches the toggles.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...350B83D8CD.jpg

I apologize for the poor quality of this one. In this orientation it appears to be an upside down "P" then below is a rightside up "6" and under that a rightside up "5".
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...925AC1C4AB.png

These are pretty much the only markings on the barrel.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...735F8C0B8B.jpg

DonVoigt 05-01-2018 10:19 PM

Really need to see the toggle knobs from the top.
Looks like they have been milled to me; no signs of the toggle lock.

Mac204 05-01-2018 11:01 PM

Gotchya. At this point, using what little I know, I'm gonna guess milled.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...7545FD466A.jpg

DonVoigt 05-02-2018 09:28 AM

Also no sign of the small pin from the top in the left knob, but it may be there.
Picture is fuzzy and won't enlarge, must be hosted off site!
Please post pictures on the server here.

Try again, closer and in focus, please.

Ron Wood 05-02-2018 10:10 AM

Don,
There is no pin in the left knob of a dished toggle knob. The axle pin of the toggle joint is retained by the toggle lock. Since there is no toggle lock on this piece, the axle pin is only a friction fit just like the forward toggle link to breech block pin. Did you also notice that the toggle is blank, no DWM? And, it appears not to have been milled down. I repeat, this is a strange piece. :)
Ron

Mac204 05-02-2018 11:18 AM

1 Attachment(s)
The top with flash.

Ron Wood 05-02-2018 01:39 PM

I'll be darned, there is a pin in the left knob! Curiouser and curiouser. Good call Don. Since I didn't expect a pin, I wouldn't have looked for one.
Ron


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