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dowens 03-20-2001 10:50 PM

1913 Erfurt finish
 
Gentleman,


Great website.

Iâ??m new to Luger collecting and this is my first time posting a message. Maybe someone can help. Recently I traded for a 1913 Erfurt with all matching parts except mag. I have found out that it is a rare version with a stock lug. Supposedly it has been refinished. The pitting was filled with bluing and the surface shows a lot of grinding or sanding marks. I read about using Flitz polish to remove cold bluing and after trying it on another gun first, I cleaned the luger with just polish and paper towels. Sure enough it was cold bluing over the pitted areas. At least 90 % of the finish is left and it appears to be rust bluing. So, after writing all this, could this be the original finish even with the rough surface marks? I can send pictures if someone is interested. Thanks for your time.






Mark 03-20-2001 11:11 PM

Re: 1913 Erfurt finish
 
Gruss Gott,Dowens!

I haven't the slightest idea as to the answer

to your question,but thanks for putting it out there.I have a 1917 Erfurt,so I'm interested in the

response your question will undoubtably generate.

Sorry I can't be of any help to you myself,but I'm

sure several of the volks on this site will be.Thanks again!


Tschuss! Mark






Ted 03-20-2001 11:24 PM

Re: 1913 Erfurt finish
 
Erfurt Lugers were not as nicely finished prior to rust bluing as DWM military Lugers were. They are very rough. Pitting on top of the original bluing would be right! Bluing on the pitting is a reblue. Erfurts were rust blued in their entireity during WWI. ted




Patrick 03-21-2001 05:13 AM

Re: 1913 Erfurt finish
 
Tolerances on Erfurt Lugers were always considered to be even better than DWM. They used the same machinery that was supplied by DWM DWM but didn�´t have to make a profit as they were a state owned factory. But the finish was often rough. So the surface marks may well be original. They would have absolutely no effect on the functions of the weapon - and if they are original should under no circumstances be buffed off. Patrick




Buddy 03-21-2001 09:45 AM

Re: 1913 Erfurt finish
 
Ted,

Do you mean that none of the parts on the WWI Erfurts were strawed?

Thanks,

Buddy




Ted 03-21-2001 09:47 AM

Re: 1913 Erfurt finish
 
They were all strawed Buddy! Most Lugers this old that have been through a war have parts that appear tarnished silver color, most of the strawing has faded away. Ted




Ted 03-21-2001 09:50 AM

Re: 1913 Erfurt finish
 
I meant all Erfurts were rust blued and all had strawed parts. Sorry for the confusing previous post. They tend to be rougher in the metal preparation than did the DWMs, especially the earlier DWMs. Ted




Johnny Peppers 03-21-2001 10:04 AM

Re: 1913 Erfurt finish
 
The later Erfurts were indeed roughly finished, but I have a 1914 4" Erfurt that is fully the equal of the DWM in finish quality. This may vary from pistol to pistol, and in even the DWM pistols the late pistols were not as nicely finished as the early examples.





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