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Good-Day 11-12-2015 07:37 PM

DWM Commercial ID and Value Help
 
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Hi Everyone,
I've had a couple Lugers for a few years now and recently picked up a third and figured it was time I got serious and got them evaluated.
I could use your help on some of the basics: condition, completeness, value and of course just your overall opinion.

This I believe is a DWM Post WW1 Commercial. The pistol has a script L prefix, very few parts are actually serialized but the ones that are all match and there are a couple crown N proofs. No S/N on the mag base or grips. The grips are in pretty good shape with moderate wear to the checkering, and barrel bore is in very good shape

Sorry I'm not the best photographer out there

The other pistol is in the P-08 section

Thanks a ton for your help!

ithacaartist 11-13-2015 06:28 PM

It's an "Alphabet Commercial, all right. Finish looks original, seem in good shape. Unless I've missed it, you didn't mention its caliber. A .30 Luger is usually worth somewhat less than a 9mm because the ammo is significantly more expensive than the 9mm.
From what I can see, think in terms of slightly under a thousand, to somewhat over a thousand dollars. Commercials also go for less because they lack the wartime connection and mystique. If this is an all-matching gun, it is collectible because of its good condition, and you may want to avoid making it work for a living.

Good-Day 11-13-2015 09:06 PM

Thanks for the info!
Sorry didn't think of it It's a 9mm.
I'm almost embarrassed to say I've had it for over a year and have not fired it. I have a Mutt parts luger that is the shooter, and it does a great job of it.

Edward Tinker 11-13-2015 09:41 PM

Is it stamped 'Germany' anywhere on it?

9mm is very nice :)

Good-Day 11-14-2015 09:45 AM

Thanks!
No import or Germany stamp on it

I've been trying to find the production year for the "L" suffix

The parts luger is import stamped under the barrel

FNorm 11-14-2015 10:42 AM

According to Still's:

L block would be the very last part of 1922, and most of 1923

FN

Good-Day 11-14-2015 11:06 AM

Fantastic
Thank You

MFC 11-15-2015 12:21 AM

If it's a 9mm (which I doubt) it's very rare.

Can you show a picture of the muzzle?

Sergio Natali 11-15-2015 04:48 AM

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Several years ago I had two of them, and I was strongly tempted to buy a third one only last year, I don't recall ever having seen one 9 mm.

Good-Day 11-15-2015 10:09 AM

DWM Commercial ID and Value Help
 
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Well what do you know look at that!!!!!!!!!!

Good thing I have not tried to fire it yet

BYF 9mm on the left, and the DWM on the right and apparently a .30

Could have sworn it said 9mm when I got it I checked the sales invoice and it says caliber not marked :(

Looks like I have some deciding to do. Buy some .30 or sell this one

THANK YOU very very much!

rhuff 11-15-2015 01:17 PM

You would have been safe if you tried to feed 9mm ammo into a 30 Luger chamber.....it just won't fit!! I own a few 30 Luger handguns and really enjoy shooting them. A number of forum members here feel the same way. The ammo is more expensive, but is a hoot to shoot.

Good-Day 11-15-2015 02:00 PM

Thanks!
I suppose keeping it would not be a problem as I have already had it for 2 years now, and haven't shot it yet or I should probably say tried to shoot it since I don't even have any 30 ;)

DonVoigt 11-15-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Good-Day (Post 279925)
Thanks!
I suppose keeping it would not be a problem as I have already had it for 2 years now, and haven't shot it yet or I should probably say tried to shoot it since I don't even have any 30 ;)

Just as well, .30 is hard to find, expensive and all lugers do not like all .30 ammo. See the recent threads on getting a .30 to "run".:eek:

rhuff 11-15-2015 05:05 PM

Midway, Ammo to go, Sportsman Guide, SAMCO, to name just a few have 30 Luger for sale. Because of the availability of this ammo currently, the price has gone down. Your choice.

DavidJayUden 11-15-2015 06:13 PM

So is there any consensus out there regarding the best brand of .30 ammo currently available? Sounds like Fiochi is not at the top of the list.
dju

DonVoigt 11-15-2015 07:27 PM

"Best" is what works in one's pistol; some brands do, some don't in any particular pistol.

Samco's Finn surplus should be loaded to mil specs, but it is 60 years old.

Fiocchi is at the top of my list, cause it works for me; and it is what my local shop has!:p

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 279948)
So is there any consensus out there regarding the best brand of .30 ammo currently available? Sounds like Fiochi is not at the top of the list.
dju


MFC 11-15-2015 08:48 PM

Take it for a test drive.
30 Luger is hoot to shoot... flat and fast.

Good-Day 11-16-2015 08:19 PM

I just may have to pick up a box and give it a whirl

rhuff 11-17-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Good-Day (Post 279993)
I just may have to pick up a box and give it a whirl



If you do give it a "go", pick up the spent brass as handloaders can always use it if they reload this caliber......just a thought.


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