Short Sear vs Long Sear
 

Hi all,

I have been looking for an explanation of why Erfurt and DWM seem to have changed from manufacturing Lugers with the long sear to short sear.

I believe, based upon my own Lugers, those made before 1914 have the long sear, those after 1914 the short. While some 1914s have the long and others the short. I guess this transition took place gradually in 1914.

Richard

Why? So the pistol can be charged with the safety "on".

When sounds right, and many/most of the earlier ones were modified; so one does not
see them very often.

The relieved sear was introduced in early 1916.
Norm

This is not quite exact. The relieved sear bar is a safety measure that is true. But, it is meant to allow clearing the chamber of a loaded weapon with the safety on. If the striker (firing pin) is not already set you cannot cycle the action with the safety on, the sear bar will not ride up over the lug on the striker. Therefore you can't load/charge the weapon with the safety on.

I can confirm the 1916 transition date. My DWM from early in 1916 is not relieved, and the one from later 1916 is relieved.

"A" block:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/attachme...1&d=1440424687

"N" block:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/attachme...1&d=1440424687

Marc

Richard

If I'm not wrong the "short sear" enabled the pistol to be cocked with the safety on.
The short sear was invented by George Luger in 1915 and they started to apply it to all his pistols from the year after.
My 2 cents.

Rgds


Sergio

Sergio,
See my post above regarding cocking the pistol with the safety on. :)
Ron

Hmmm...I have a 1914 Erfurt (4" barrel) with a short (relieved sear).
Did they go back and retrofit some of the pre-1916s like they did the hold-opens?


Aesthetically, I like the long sear for looks especially with the safety on.
I like the way the safety abuts the sear but, that is just me.

Yes, some by relieving the existing sear bar and some by replacing it altogether.

Makes sense, now that I have thought on it.
IF you could charge with the safety on, the safety would not
prevent a discharge, DUH!

Note to self, think thin write!:banghead: