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DonVoigt 04-24-2015 11:34 PM

Shooter G date Mauser
 
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Since I didn't have a "shooter", I figured I should have one to save breaking something on a matching gun- as recommended in most every matching P 08 post.

This Luger is made from parts of four pistols as best I can tell.
The finish is pretty nice and the grips are great.:)

Receiver and bbl are original G date Mauser and match each other;the lower is matching to itself even the grips, and is # 1013g-perhaps someone can id the mfg for me; The toggle train is Mauser S/42 #72; and the decent no number side plate is from a police modified Luger as it has the cut out on top, only a "T" stamped inside.

The unmarked side plate will soon migrate to my 1917 artillery, and the repro side plate will come to this shooter; assuming both work well when changed.

Haven't shot it yet, but that is on the schedule for Monday.

Comments and info welcome.

DonVoigt 04-24-2015 11:39 PM

More pictures for G date above
 
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More shooter pictures:

The magazine is an un-numbered Erfurt magazine, that has already taken up residence in the 1917 Artillery with the non matching mag.

rhuff 04-25-2015 07:24 PM

Shooter Lugers are a wonderful thing to own. I am a shooter and can take my shooters to the range with no concern or worry concerning broken parts. That looks like a nice condition shooter.

Sergio Natali 04-26-2015 05:06 AM

Congratulations on your particularly nice "shooter"
Nice pictures too.

Sergio

Geo99 05-15-2015 12:35 AM

Nice shooter - if you ever decide to sell it the individual parts are probably worth far more than the pistol together, since they all appear to have original finish (except for that weird sideplate).

- Geo

kurusu 05-15-2015 03:56 AM

Does it shoot? Most "shooters" can be quite an headache.

DonVoigt 05-15-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 271434)
Does it shoot? Most "shooters" can be quite an headache.

I guess you missed the other thread that is connected to the actual shooting of this "G date Shooter".

Short story is yes it does shoot and very well, given the proper ammo and magazine.

Yes, you are absolutely correct, shooter lugers can be a real
head ache.

The first luger I owned, over 50 years ago, was an Erfurt-
wouldn't shoot and feed, I owned it less than a day- and didn't buy another luger for some 35 years!:surr:

Here is the thread link to the actual shooting story:
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=34250

Sergio Natali 05-15-2015 09:26 AM

Don

With all the respect, that might be "only" a shooter, but to me it's still quite a nice "G" Luger! Mauser after all made only about 55K of them and surely not many survived in 100% unmolested conditions.

Sergio

kurusu 05-15-2015 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 271442)
I guess you missed the other thread that is connected to the actual shooting of this "G date Shooter".


Here is the thread link to the actual shooting story:
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=34250

Not only I read it I even posted on it.:o

mrerick 05-15-2015 10:39 AM

From the typeface of the serial number digits on your Luger's frame, I think you have a 1935 (G) or 1936 or very early 1937 Mauser frame.

You can pick up some clues by looking at the milling pattern at the rear top of the frame. It's discussed in this article:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ght=rear+frame

Also, the internal factory inspection marks may help identify manufacture.

Probably made from three guns. The frame, the receiver/barrel and the toggle train.

It looks like you have a nice shooter. Was there some grinding done on the frame near the trigger plate surface? You may find some issues when trying to replace this, as these areas were hand fitted at the factory, and must have been hand fitted when your pistol was assembled.

Marc

DonVoigt 05-15-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick (Post 271450)
From the typeface of the serial number digits on your Luger's frame, I think you have a 1935 (G) or 1936 or very early 1937 Mauser frame.

You can pick up some clues by looking at the milling pattern at the rear top of the frame. It's discussed in this article:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ght=rear+frame

Also, the internal factory inspection marks may help identify manufacture.

Probably made from three guns. The frame, the receiver/barrel and the toggle train.

It looks like you have a nice shooter. Was there some grinding done on the frame near the trigger plate surface? You may find some issues when trying to replace this, as these areas were hand fitted at the factory, and must have been hand fitted when your pistol was assembled.

Marc

Thanks for your careful observation and comments, much appreciated as it helps us learn.

I did reach the same conclusions in studying the pistol, though I'm sure it took me hours longer than it did you.

I said 1937 lower because of the suffix and it is still strawed..

Definitely 3 pistols in one, and add in the repro side plate.

The sideplate fit with just a little adjustment and the trigger is good, so there must not have been much frame modification to this one. I doubt is will change the side plate, it works and there is nothing much to be gained, unless I stumbled into a salt blue
numbered 13.:)

I'll have to look at the frame milling reference, thanks.

This is the only Mauser P 08 I have, but would like to know more about the inside frame markings you mention.

mrerick 05-15-2015 04:53 PM

As Lugers were manufactured, there were major stopping points in the process where parts were inspected and improved by internal factory inspectors. This was usually done by observation and through the use of gauges.

The inspectors at DWM used markings that are different than you encounter with the people that worked at Mauser later. You can sometimes determine where a part or assembly was made by looking at these marks. The numeric digit dies are also different.

Toward the end of Mauser production, instead of using their own personal die to mark parts, a more generic "Werkes-Revision" intertwined WR die was used.

Marc

james haven 05-16-2015 12:17 AM

would a "g"date have a droop eagle 63 on the barrel? just curious[i can't spell. jim

Sergio Natali 05-16-2015 03:49 AM

....

Definitely 3 pistols in one, and add in the repro side plate.

The sideplate fit with just a little adjustment and the trigger is good, so there must not have been much frame modification to this one. I doubt is will change the side plate, it works and there is nothing much to be gained, unless I stumbled into a salt blue
numbered 13...


A I said you've got a nice Luger after all, and with of patience is not impossible o find a correct sideplate.
Regards.

Sergio

DonVoigt 05-18-2015 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james haven (Post 271489)
would a "g"date have a droop eagle 63 on the barrel? just curious[i can't spell. jim

As you can see, this one does; bbl and extension match.
In original finish with "ghosts" on the bbl numbers.


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