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txnewb 07-31-2013 09:21 PM

Need Identification Help
 
Hello all, I am brand new here. I have inherited a Luger and know absolutely nothing about it. I have read a few threads on here and I know I am in the right place to find some information. These are the only photos I have on this computer, if you need any additional photos please let me know.

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Edward Tinker 07-31-2013 09:25 PM

Yes, many more pictures or lots of info.

A. It's a LP08 which is commonly called an artillery Luger
B. grips had items added, not by a German gi
C. What is year on top
D. What is serial number to include suffix
E. what is on the toggle, DWM or Erfurt

Nomadr 07-31-2013 09:28 PM

Welcome to the forum. Larger photos would help also. The ones you posted are way to small.

Bob

Edward Tinker 07-31-2013 10:11 PM

Top of the gun, the part you pull up to make the action open. The top should have letters on it and it should be stylized DWM...

mrerick 07-31-2013 10:41 PM

Hi Paul, and welcome to the forum.

The pictures that you are posting don't have enough detail in them. Typically, you should size a photo with at least 1024 pixels of detail along the wide or tall axis.

We need to see the top of your Luger, and photos of all the markings externally visible. You need to check to see if the numbered internal parts match the serial number.

Please ensure that your Luger is unloaded before handing it, and also photograph your empty magazine, including any markings on the base.

I'd also like to see the detail of the inlay that is on each grip... It's quite unusual.

When you take additional photos, use a tripod, and take them in indirect (shaded) sunlight without a flash. Use the closeup setting on your digital camera.

Marc

txnewb 07-31-2013 10:47 PM

Thanks Marc, I will refresh the thread when I get back in town and take more photos. Here is a closeup of the inlay.

Frank B 08-01-2013 09:09 AM

What the heck? Interesting modification to the handle on both sides ...You say inherited? Does it come with Vet bring back papers? Anything is possible so..I will wait and see what the rest say...

alanint 08-01-2013 09:27 AM

Although slathered in grease, the gun looks refinished, based on the soft lines, (lack of crisp edges) and dished out proofs.

I have never seen this particular Nazi eagle and swastika symbol before. It is not official, to the best of my knowledge and must have been a civilian produced piece of jewelry or similar, which was appropriated by a GI and inlaid into the grips.

alvin 08-01-2013 09:29 AM

True, anything is possible. But it's sure not a factory modification, nor a government contractor modification. If it's modified by a well known historical figure or involved in important historical event with provenance, that will attract history collectors.... or, if it's the instance used in a recent famous movie , that will attract some collectors.

NoncomRetired 08-01-2013 09:30 AM

Is that part of it's holster I see in the bottom photo?

alanint 08-01-2013 09:49 AM

It sure looks like a holster.

The owner should post everything they received so a true valuation can be made.

txnewb 08-01-2013 11:36 AM

I will post a ton of pics tomorrow when I get back into town. Yes that is a holster.

txnewb 08-02-2013 02:14 PM

Ok all,

Here are some additional photos of the artillery Luger and as an added bonus I have some pictures of another Luger. As always, any information is greatly appreciated. I have only one magazine and I believe it is for the standard one. There may still be more in Grandpa's safe, will have to check. As far as I can tell, all external parts are numbers matching. I will have to get someone to take it apart to confirm the inner parts.

andwaahs 08-02-2013 03:57 PM

Wunderbar!

mrerick 08-02-2013 06:26 PM

I think you have a couple of nice Lugers. An Erfurt P08 and a DWM LP08.

The lack of detail and lighting makes it very difficult to judge their finish or markings.

Sharp focus, well lit, with more resolution will help. Go to a digital camera and tripod if you're using a cellphone camera.

txnewb 08-02-2013 07:06 PM

Thank you mrerick. I will bust out the digital camera and replace these pictures with some better ones. One question: Any ideas on the large ink stamp on the holster?

txnewb 08-05-2013 11:14 PM

Ok, let's try this again.

Indirect sunlight--check
tripod--check
digital camera--check
close up mode--check

I am using a different uploading site that seems to retain more of the original detail. This first one is the Erfurt.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5524/9...1c852a8c_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/9...da95407f_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/9...3a4d0368_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/9...2260f607_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7305/9...d1a52ab8_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2834/9...e92fa380_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5508/9...c88dba8b_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7364/9...a4b6dccc_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3824/9...02f8c021_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3806/9...3e430f41_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3673/9...8f1be949_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7427/9...dd3d5c23_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5348/9...3c3ae113_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7387/9...f70891cc_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5446/9...0bc674ea_b.jpg

txnewb 08-05-2013 11:45 PM

OK, let's try the artillery model now.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3790/9...cd80fd61_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5486/9...b3038607_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3827/9...4f7f8333_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/9...e9265b89_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/9...1514dfff_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3745/9...25f7c14f_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2814/9...26739c81_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7406/9...92b73eae_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5541/9...df706c58_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/9...80d3442e_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/9...02af2f70_b.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5518/9...d06e181c_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2877/9...156a1f7d_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7286/9...4cffa001_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7334/9...7b4e7f32_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2869/9...20d4a08d_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7379/9...d3e3167f_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3744/9...6104a403_b.jpg

alvin 08-06-2013 06:18 AM

The short Erfurt looks great. The finish is original, and even the magazine's matching!

The long one was refurbished.

Frank B 08-06-2013 07:34 AM

Great pics


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