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wlyon 12-24-2011 07:20 PM

Dutch Cleaning rod
 
I have a Dutch cleaning rod. Inside the oiler is a disk with a felt type washer to hold it in. The head of the disk has a depression and around it are the letters C M V R 1 and a star. Any idea what this is or means? Should a Dutch rod have a provision on the end to screw in brushes? Thanks Bill

wlyon 12-25-2011 02:50 PM

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Photos of disk - has a felt washer around it and the bottom is domed.

The top with the markings looks like a cartridge head but it is fastened to the dome bottom with felt between them.

Vlim 12-25-2011 05:37 PM

Bill, it actually looks like the pushbutton that was attached to the lid of the rod pouch of the holster.
I guess the rod came from Ed?

Ron Wood 12-25-2011 05:46 PM

Greben,
I think you may have hit the nail on the head! It appears to be one of the "snowflake" snap covers that are found on Dutch leather. I bet with some fiddeling Jerry could transplant it onto a new flap and restore the Dutch holster that Ed has/had.

Bill,
The Dutch cleaning rod I have and others I have seen do not have a provision for a screw on attachment. The only oiler top cleaning rod that I know of with a screw on tip is the Bulgarian variant.

wlyon 12-25-2011 06:51 PM

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Very fine cap checkering. Is this OK for a Dutch? One just like it in Sturgess. Anything else catch your eye plus or minus? Thanks.

Edward Tinker 12-25-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 205034)
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I guess the rod came from Ed?

yes, and I guess he has the button that came off the holster :) but I don't think it can go back on ;)

Bill, can you make out the marking on the rod? Almost a 'w' ?

Ron Wood 12-25-2011 08:02 PM

Bill,
I'm not at home right now to look at my Dutch rod for comparison , but I would place a substantial bet that yours is the genuine article. Glad you got it, it is a difficult piece to find. I would expect that if there was any marking on it, it would be a "GS". I don't recall off-hand but I do not believe mine is marked at all.
I modified my observation about the snap cover. After magnifying the image, I am not sure there is the "snowflake" marking. Can you confirm?

lugerholsterrepair 12-25-2011 08:45 PM

Gerben is correct..This is a snap closure likely off of the holster. Stored in the grease barrel for safekeeping.

Try as I might... These little rascals are unsalvageable. They are placed by hammering them together and in doing so the interior metal locks onto itself and cannot be reversed. How I wish that were not true but it is.

I would dearly love to find a box of these new and un installed. Many artifacts could be restored..

Bill..Where/how does this rod un screw? Can you show a photo of the part that comes apart?

wlyon 12-25-2011 09:11 PM

Jerry
The rod does not unscrew. The cap has the Dutch straight applicator with no spade end. The cap screws into the barrel. Did this answer your question?

Ron The dome side of this does not have anything on it. No snow flake.

Ed The one mark could be a W or an E. My guess is an E.

lugerholsterrepair 12-25-2011 10:35 PM

Bill, That's a relief! Any rod that unscrews can't be correct and I am happy to hear your Dutch rod is all it should be! Congratulations on a super rare find.

Vlim 12-26-2011 08:37 AM

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Any rod that unscrews can't be correct
Not quite. Portuguese replacement rods that were locally do unscrew.

The Dutch rod looks right as rain to me. The Dutch used to run an oiled patch through the barrel, this patch was fed through the hole at the tip, while Germany used a piece of oiled flax linnen wrapped around the threads of theirs.

Ron Wood 12-26-2011 01:11 PM

When I got my Dutch holster, the cleaning rod was jammed into the pouch with an oiled patch still on it.

wlyon 12-26-2011 01:22 PM

Thanks Ron, Vlim , Jerry and Ed for your help. It is appreciated. Bill


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