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jonnyc 07-27-2011 10:27 AM

Interesting Story?
 
A guy on another site posted the following. I'm 99.9% sure I already know the answer to my own question, but...is there any shred of possibility to this story?

"My dad got it out of an arms factory in Stutgard Germany when his company comendeered the factory at the end of the war. He got 25 new lugers in a crate and brought them back to the states after the war. He gave 24 of the guns away to his friends and kept one for himself.While in the factory he had a German prisoner who was one of the gunsmiths in the plant work on the gun. He had the prisoner modify the gun to reduce the trigger pull. The normal trigger pull is suppose to be 5 to 7 lbs and the gunsmith reduced it to 2.5 lbs. As a result of the modifications the gunsmith used a couple of parts from another gun. The trigger and trigger plate is marked with a 73 while the rest of the gun is 16.
there is more to the story but that's pretty much the history of the gun."

lugerholsterrepair 07-27-2011 10:54 AM

An elaborate BS explination on why the pistol is mismatched. If it's true..cough up the luger crate and prove it.

Anyway..who would give away 25 Lugers to Friends? The whole story has too many holes in it to even begin to believe it.

John Sabato 07-27-2011 02:05 PM

That original empty crate would likely be worth as much or more than the Luger. BTW, Lugers were not manufactured in Stuttgart to the best of my knowledge. I also don't think that a crate held "25" Lugers... It would likely have been some even number ending in a "0" like "10" or "20" or "30"... I vote BS like Jerry.

Patronen 07-27-2011 02:17 PM

I wouldn't even give away 1 out of a crate of 25 free Hi-Points even after I won the lottery. The rest of the story sounds odd. My vote is it's a BS story.

jonnyc 07-27-2011 02:38 PM

Well, you guys have totally dispelled my tiny .1% hesitancy.

wlyon 07-27-2011 05:18 PM

And tomorrow boys and girls Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Bill

Conny 07-27-2011 05:21 PM

I'm not a luger expert nor do I own one at present nor do I play one on TV but, I know BS when I read/hear it.

Reads like the crap from Jackson Armory on Gunbroker.

command450 07-27-2011 05:26 PM

a luger crate.......that would be cool !!

best part was......he had to use some other parts,to do the job !

alanint 07-27-2011 06:26 PM

Right...a gunsmith who is AT THE FACTORY and has no access to blank sideplates and dies to number the gun properly once he is done with it. I think a German of that era would rather die than turn out a mismatched gun purposely.

mrerick 07-27-2011 07:50 PM

And the old adage, "Buy the gun, not the story" applies, as always.

If buying it, a "shooter" price for a mismatched "shooter" luger would be appropriate...

I always enjoy these stories at shows. I know that this was from a posting on another site, but these are often heard in person when the seller wants the price to go up a little... or a lot!



Marc

jonnyc 07-27-2011 09:52 PM

It's a guy who inherited the pistol and wants to know why it keeps jamming on him.

lugerholsterrepair 07-28-2011 10:38 AM

Johnny..

It's a guy who inherited the pistol and wants to know why it keeps jamming on him.

Cause his Father gave away all the good ones.

John Sabato 07-28-2011 02:58 PM

The gun jams? Then the price just came down a few notches :D

jonnyc 07-28-2011 09:05 PM

Guys,
It's not for sale, that I know of, and I sure ain't buying.

jonnyc 07-28-2011 11:25 PM

Ooooh...more got added, enjoy:

"As I said earlier my dad got this PO8 at a German arms factory at the end of the war in Europe. He had some interesting stories that some may be interested in.
Just after finding the guns at the factory his company captured a German SS officer. He was disarmed and my dad through all of the German weapons in a big pile to be destroyed later. He did keep the SS officer's Luger holster to have for his new found PO8. I have that holster today. The SS officer's name is scratched in the leather and it reads "S/S Reisling".
During the war in Europe my dad told me that after a battle with the Germans, the GI's (attending to the wounded and dead) would often find Lugers laying around on the ground, and a lot of the GI's had their 1911's missing. Apparently the front line Germans didn't like the Lugers because they were very prone to jamming when dirty. They would take the 1911's from the dead and wounded GI's but they would leave the holster's behind. The German soldiers were afraid of the SS officers and didn't want them to see that they had a 1911 so they used their Luger holsters that had a flap or lid so no one would see what they had. The problem was that the 1911 is a much larger gun than the luger and they would have to jam it into the luger holster. When it cam time to use the 1911 they needed both hands and lots of tugging to get it out of the holster. Sometimes making it totally unusable. Go figure.
He told me that some of the American officers used the luger. They like it because it was a bit more accurate than the 1911. Some of them just used the Lugers to taunt the German prisoners. The 1911 however was the weapon of choice for the front line GI's. It wasn't particularly accurate but apparently it didn't need to be because if somebody got hit on any part of their body it would at least knock them over and incapacitate them, where the Luger load (as long as it didn't hit a vital organ) would just pass through and not necessarily knock you down. The Germans thought the Luger was better for tapping a man or woman in the back of the head so they could get 2 with only one shot. (My dad's theory. He didn't have much regard, to say the least, for SS troops )"

Sieger 07-29-2011 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyc (Post 198938)
Ooooh...more got added, enjoy:

"As I said earlier my dad got this PO8 at a German arms factory at the end of the war in Europe. He had some interesting stories that some may be interested in.
Just after finding the guns at the factory his company captured a German SS officer. He was disarmed and my dad through all of the German weapons in a big pile to be destroyed later. He did keep the SS officer's Luger holster to have for his new found PO8. I have that holster today. The SS officer's name is scratched in the leather and it reads "S/S Reisling".
During the war in Europe my dad told me that after a battle with the Germans, the GI's (attending to the wounded and dead) would often find Lugers laying around on the ground, and a lot of the GI's had their 1911's missing. Apparently the front line Germans didn't like the Lugers because they were very prone to jamming when dirty. They would take the 1911's from the dead and wounded GI's but they would leave the holster's behind. The German soldiers were afraid of the SS officers and didn't want them to see that they had a 1911 so they used their Luger holsters that had a flap or lid so no one would see what they had. The problem was that the 1911 is a much larger gun than the luger and they would have to jam it into the luger holster. When it cam time to use the 1911 they needed both hands and lots of tugging to get it out of the holster. Sometimes making it totally unusable. Go figure.
He told me that some of the American officers used the luger. They like it because it was a bit more accurate than the 1911. Some of them just used the Lugers to taunt the German prisoners. The 1911 however was the weapon of choice for the front line GI's. It wasn't particularly accurate but apparently it didn't need to be because if somebody got hit on any part of their body it would at least knock them over and incapacitate them, where the Luger load (as long as it didn't hit a vital organ) would just pass through and not necessarily knock you down. The Germans thought the Luger was better for tapping a man or woman in the back of the head so they could get 2 with only one shot. (My dad's theory. He didn't have much regard, to say the least, for SS troops )"

I'm sorry, but this also sound like BS.

By the way, a Reisling is a grape used in the fine German white wines.

Sieger

alanint 07-29-2011 07:59 AM

Let's not forget that not all vets were good guys. Liars, thieves and murderers were drafted too.

Either this guy has a very rose colored recollection of his dad's war stories or the old man had a ball BSing the kid. This latest addition is a mostly a mix of post war myths and outright fabrications.

jonnyc 07-29-2011 09:15 AM

All true, Gents, but it is entertaining.

alanint 07-29-2011 11:18 AM

Anybody want to jam a 1911 into a Luger Holster for us to see if it takes both hands to prie it free?

tau-delt 07-31-2011 06:36 PM

I'm an old guy and don't get out much but somehow I just kind of knew that there would be an SS officer someplace in this deal....


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