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evrenay 06-24-2011 03:26 AM

another nickle
 
Please have a look at this chrome or nickel plated Luger: http://www.tabancatufek.com/forum2/s...d.php?tid=6990

I asked to an expert and he said me the serial numbers do not match with post WW2 productions (say, it was stamped later on by someone), however I couldn't be sure if the nickel (or chrome) plating is an original Mauser is or done by a gun-smith here in Turkey.

What is your opinion?
So, here are the detailed photos of nickel P 08.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000686.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000687.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000689.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000692.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000693.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000700.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000701.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000704.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000705.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000706.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000707.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000708.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000709.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000710.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000711.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000712.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000713.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000714.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000716.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000717.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000719.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000720.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000728.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000721.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000724.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000725.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000726.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000727.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000729.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000730.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000731.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000735.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000750.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000738.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000736.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...e/P1000756.jpg

Edward Tinker 06-24-2011 03:49 AM

helllo, I moved your question to its own thread.

It would be better to post your pictures here and not take us to a foreign website ;)

So, I assume that your question is, is the nickle original.

Same as the luger originally talked about. NO

Lugers, never, ever came from the factory nickle plated, never. a very few were done up as presentations, but never issued this way.


ed

evrenay 06-24-2011 03:57 AM

Thank you very much for carrying my misposted thread and I apologize for the inconvenience.

My question is/was if the Luger was nickel plated later on by Mauserwerke. Because I read that after 70's Mauser did plating job for individual customers for their Lugers. What I mean is, one sends his Luger to Mauser and gets it back as nickel or chrome plated back.

I didn't mean that the pistol was nickel plates as it was manufactured.

I will copy the links of the photos to Lugerforum, as soon as I have time.

Vlim 06-24-2011 03:59 AM

Hi,

It is a post war Mauser Parabellum and it certainly didn't leave the factory this way. Mauser offered a matte hardchromed version of the pistol, but these showed a more satin like finish. Since the chrome layer adds metal to the parts, the pistols finished in the Mauser plant were specially prepared for chroming. The tolerances were adjusted and the individual toggle parts were numbered to the pistol. Chroming was done by Mauser's sister company, the Mauser Messzeug GmbH (the tooling division).

The Mauser shown on the Turkish site has had it's serial number and position altered, which is a good indication that Mauser was not involved.

Balder 06-24-2011 12:48 PM

I'm certainly no expert, but it looks like the ""chrome/nickel" finish could actually be steel in the white. In other words - the blueing has been ground/polished off.

Balder

Vlim 06-24-2011 05:46 PM

The photos show some traces of blueing beneath the finish. On some spots it appears to be flaking a bit, so I'm pretty confident that it has been chrome plated.

ithacaartist 06-24-2011 06:58 PM

Prep of surface finish for chroming`
 
Hi evrenay,
You have posted a nicely comprehensive batch of photos for this poor gun. Wherever it was plated, whoever prepared it for the process, I am afraid, did not do a very good job. Because you took such good pics, one can see every mark, grain, and gall left by the preparer's files, not to mention sanding/grinding swirls. This treatment could have come out lots better, and guns that have had their surfaces carefully smoothed can be quite handsome (although it knocks down the value quite a bit for hardcore collectors to alter one in this way), and I feel bad for you that this one lacks such attention to detail. But since it is a post-war Mauser, I think what affects its value most is that the plating was done poorly, not simply that it was done at all. IMHO.


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