Can someone give me a value estimate
 

I am looking at trading for this and would like an apx value.

BYF 41 Rig. "black widow"

2 correct mags, 2 incorrect mags

41 Holster

tools

All original, all matching numbers, 94-95% condition.

Can you guys give me a ballpark? Can get pics tonight.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...76b36cf067d221

http://www.fgsfirearms.com/lugers.ph...at=Black+Widow

Realize that the web sites Tom gave you are "retail" and for an individual, take 20 to even 40% off. They are both trustworthy and good sites and usually who I point folks too, also, look at gunbroker and see what has SOLD in the last 60 days, not for sale, but actually sold...

Also, there is no such thing as a "black widow" variation, it is an american made up term, this does not mean they are not worth more than a luger with wood grips (the only difference); as they are.


BUT, plastic grips that are very realiztic have been made for YEARS....


Welcome to the forum, pictures would help a lot, as value for the holster and mags could drop dramatically if they are wrong or repro's.

Ed

I understand where the term came from, but I use it to describe what I am talking about. Here is a quick pic.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4804.jpg

Around here they go for about $2000-2250. They stay on the market for awhile tho.

Jerry

Is that for the whole rig? Holster, tools, 2 correct mags, etc?

If you show us a bunch of pictures, proofs, both sides, front and rear straps, then maybe folks would be more willing to "guess".


If you go to the websites suggested, you can get an idea on what you are looking at.

3 extra mags are worth $300-$500 for all 3, everything depends on how they are marked. i.e. 2 bakelite ones in nice shape, probably worth $400 for the two, any chips or nicks, price comes down. "incorrect" mags, does this mean they are repro's or ?????

A holster $75 to $350, all depends on the shape or if its been cut down, etc.

A tool, $40 for an unmarked, a marked one, about $85 and maybe more if specially marked.


Ed

checkpoint charlies has one on is site, http://www.checkpointcharlies.com/sh...2&categoryid=9

I personally think that 2 matching numbered mags are worth a lot more than 2 bakelite mags.

Here is one for sale in CA.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ighlight=luger

jerry

Edward

All the mags are genuine Luger mags, but 2 of them are not correct for this rig. One of the extras is an unmarked mag, supposedly that can be used "correctly" with any Luger. Just repeating what I was told.

I am going to pull the trigger. I am getting an inspection period so I can check everything out thoroughly.

Couple more pictures

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4845.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4844.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4842.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4840.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4838.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4808.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4797.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/IMG_4809.jpg

Nice gun. Is there a marking on the front grip strap?

Balder

There is a marking on the front grip strap. Apparently it is unexplained. He said it looks to be from the period but no one knows what it is, do you have an idea?