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Steve Richards 08-22-2006 12:57 AM

Brownell's rust blue
 
Has anyone had experience with the rust blue chemical that Brownell's sells? I am buying an Astra Condor that will need to be refinished and if the solution works as indicated on their website I will do that. I like the look of rust blue better thatn the hot dips and would like to do it myself if it is feasable.

Steve Richards

policeluger 08-22-2006 09:04 AM

I've used it for years, if you do your part, it will produce a wonderful rust blue finish....anything else I can help you with?

Hugh 08-22-2006 11:42 PM

I've used the Dichropan IM and believe it to be the easiest & most "foolproof", especially for a beginner.

Revolvr 09-04-2006 06:15 PM

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I've used Brownell's "Laurel Mountain Forge" on two handguns. Worked great. It has a degreaser in it that makes it easier for a beginner because it reduces the probability you'll end up with uneven or fingerprinted results.

Have not done a Luger yet, but I'm looking for a shooter to refinish later this year once it cools off (I live in Phoenix and do the refinishing in my garage).

Rust blue takes a lot of effort and time to do well but can turn out very fine. Attached is a photo of a Broomhandle I refinished recently.

-- Dan

Steve Richards 09-04-2006 07:35 PM

Hugh and Dan,

Thank you for the replies. Now I have to decide which one would be better. The current issue of Surplus Fierarms has an article about reblueing a Luger and they used two different Dichropan products.

Does the Laurel Mountain Forge require heating the parts? I like how the broomhandle came out. You have my sympathy living in Poenix. I lived there for 11 months in the mid 1960's. From mid-August to early July. I do not like the heat! Being a Willamette Valley boy, anything over 75 is too hot for my blood.

I will have to call Brownells and see if they can explain what the differnce in the two are and which is closest to a hot European dip blue.

Steve

Hugh 09-05-2006 01:08 AM

Steve,

The Laurel Mountain is a traditional rust blue, and requires more steps than the Dichropan IM. The Dichropan IM requires that the parts be boiled in water, but a decent blue can be obatined in a couple of applications. The Laurel Mtn will probably require about 5 applications for good coverage. Revolvr can correct me if this is wrong.

Revolvr 09-05-2006 09:02 PM

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The traditional rust blue does not require pre-heating the metal. The basic steps are:

Prep the metal by stripping any old finish, and polish if needed. Metal prep takes the most time and muscle. I do most all by hand.

Apply the rust blue solution
Allow to rust a couple of hours. I built a rusting box for this.
Boil to turn the rust to black
Card it with steel wool and a carding brush (also from Brownell's)
Degrease again if needed (not needed with Laurel Mtn)

Then the whole process is repeated 3-5 times. I have found 4 works well. Gets in to diminishing returns after a while.

Then I let it sit 24 hours or so, then oil it.

Below is a photo of the work in progress after rusting before boiling.

-- Dan

Dwight Gruber 09-05-2006 11:16 PM

What happens if you apply rust blue over the existing blued finish?

--Dwight


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