What kind of stock is this, and is it real?
 

Hello guys this is my first post on this forum. I recently bought a luger, with this luger came a stock which was not originally belonging to this luger. I am curious which kind of stock this is. Does someone of you guys know?

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Hi David, Welcome to the forum! I wish I had better news for you but that stock is a palpable fake.
Regards, Norm

I wonder if it has a Finnish connection?

My Finnish rifle stock came with a stock medallion like that...The attaching screw for the medallion is one I have never seen...The two-hole spanner-type fastening...And the 'twisted cross' is not necessarily a Nazi symbol...

What does the attaching iron look like???

BTW, here's the two images posted so far -

Hi Ron, Is Kenny Finnish?
Best regards, Norm

???? I'm a little slow today (well, actually most days). Could you 'splain?:confused:

Hi Ron, You are definitely not slow, I should have been more explicit. I believe this concoction to be the handiwork of a notorious faker of Luger accessories who hails from Minnesota.
Best regards, Norm

Ah, the light dawns! A little cryptic but clever :)

Thank you for your many reactions already. Here are some other pictures of the stock.

http://i59.tinypic.com/29lyagy.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/axnr83.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/16hrk1g.jpg

Hi David, Thanks for those extra photos. I have to revise my opinion, I now think the stock itself may be genuine, but some of the markings are fake. I must confess I've never seen anything like it, it's not German, although it seems to have started life as a surplus LP08 stock, and it's not for the Finnish M23, as Ron suggested. Anyone have any ideas?
Regards, Norm

Day-em!!! I like it!!! Does he have a web site, Norm??? :thumbup: :D :cheers:

eBay is his "website"... and he preys on the uneducated who haven't done their research. He can seldom post anything for sale there that doesn't get reviewed here...

I haven't seen it all, not in over 50 years of looking at Lugers, but I have NEVER seen anything like the inletting on the back of this particular stock.

...check your PM's Rich.

The Thot Plickens! :evilgrin:

In for the end!

Gunny John

I doubt it is from this notorious faker living in Minnesota, since I bought it here in the Netherlands. (where I am also living)

We didn't know that, Walter, as you left it out of your profile.

Do you have the holster for it also???

And, since you posted in the Navy Luger forum, do you have the Navy Luger to go with it??? :)

My comment above is meant to merely respond to the question regarding the notorious seller on ebay that was referred to by Norme.

I have no idea where the stock originated, or who might have modified it to its current configuration. It does appear that the inletting shown in the photo for the brass strap keeper is of a newer vintage than the original stock manufacturer's work.

Hi David, The Netherlands connection changes everything! What made me think the stock was fake was the Dutch style brass plate attached to the stock. Perhaps now one of our Dutch Luger collectors could figure out what this is.
Regards, Norm

Don't know if I'm stating the obvious, but are those replacement straps with an original boot?
dju

why couldn't an item forged in the usa end up in europe? dhl and others deliver to europe everyday.

I think there are entirely too many doodads and modifications on this to be any attempt to forge an original item.
My gut says a legitimate example of SOMETHING.

That double-ended brass fork holding the straps inside the stock inletting is peculiar to say the least. I cannot even imagine how it was used, or it's purpose.

Yes that is true, I think one part of the belt are original, and I looks like the other part of the belt is fake.
But I do now know for sure.

No I do not have the holster, which belongs to it.
I do not have a navy Luger which goes with it, it came with a German army Luger composed out of parts with various serial numbers. Which I bought for a nice price.
The guy I bought it from did also not know where the stock originated from.

Maybe I can afterall. We are talking Netherlands here... and they re-used a lot of the captured German weapons after WW2. Could that brass fork be sized correctly to fit through a couple of the grommets on a WW2 style U.S. Army pistolbelt? If so, that holster/stock would hang from the pistolbelt, eh ?

Whatyathink?