1917 Erfurt luger
 

All matching serial numbers butt stock holster.

OK, we have pics...Now there are a couple more points to add, detailed in this thread -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=12096

Again, it helps to know where you are and if you have an FFL (or can ship through a FFL holder)...

While we're waiting, let me point out that this "artillery" has what appears to be a toggle rear sight and no receiver notch... :rolleyes:

tm510a:
Are you sure about the date? It's my understanding that Erfurt only made artillery Lugers in 1914.

Agreed........May we see the serial numbers on the bottom of the barrel?

Also, someone has modified the holster's closure strap with crude staples and the strap has a pearcing. It looks like a piece of an old K98 sling was used as a repair...

I was wondering when someone would pick up on that! :)

this is in the for sale section, but since he has email turned on for this posting (I looked) and he's new, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but by morning, if still no price, I will soft delete the thread...

The gun is military numbered and has a Germany stamp?

That isn't all that uncommon. It has military numbering and proofs/inspection marks so it was never a commercial piece. But during the 1920s their economy was so bad that almost anything that could be exported commercially was gathered up to raise money. As you know the US regs required country of origin markings, so these former military pieces had to be stamped accordingly.

moved to new collectors area

IF the original poster desires to sell this item, they can contact me or repost with proper information

Well, it's obvious that Tony's wife interrupted him while posting, and although she approves of him getting rid of some of his 'junk', she's already spending the money... ;)

So let's help her out by giving an estimate... :p

Hmmm, we don't know where the '1917' came from, can we guess that this non-Erfurt has a 1917 chamber date??? Erfurt toggle, artillery barrel (maybe an original?), unknown frame, buggered holster...Barrel is in much better shape than the rest of the gun/parts...Most likely a repro...Grips look awfully good...

It's probably worth more in parts than as a shooter (which is the best it can be), but I'd peg it at $700 - $800, as an ersatz shooter...Maybe more if honestly described on GB...(Gun only)...

The all-matching numbers is suspect, I'd think...

Stock-holster I couldn't put even an estimate on (not my field of interest)...

It would be interesting to see barrel bottom + frame serial...and chamber hood...

Other estimates???

that barrel needs a little "distressed look" applied to it before putting on gunbroker.

I've been wondering about that, as I have a BN Mec-Gar mag I'd like to 'age'...maybe a salt shaker with watered-down naval jelly sprinkled on the surface??? Give it some 'age spots'...

Someone mentioned 'browning' one time...What is that??? How is it done???

One additional comment...On the area inside the right frame ear...There is usually tool marks here, made by an end mill, but this area has...gouges...I can't even imagine what made them...

Browning
 

("Someone mentioned 'browning' one time...What is that??? How is it done??")

(Koff Koff) Medium hot skillet, good olive oil, dip part in egg and cracker crumb mixture, fry 2 to 3 minutes per side.. (koff Koff) ;)

it looks like someone literally twisted a repro arty barrel onto a 4 inch erfurt

Don't ALL Erfurt barrel extensions have the cut out for the Arty. sight?
dju

No... 1914 Erfurts with 4" barrels did not have the artillery notch. 1916 through 1918, most do but a few don't.

Thank you for the clarification.
dju

While I don't doubt your clarification, I see that I'm not the only one who has read here that all Erfurts had the notch...I don't recall who said [wrote] it, but it did stick in my memory...Crowding out more important facts, like what I had for dinner last Tuesday... :)

The earlier Erfurts did not have the receiver notch, including the early 1914 pieces. But late in 1914 the notch was added with the start of LP08 production and remained for the duration of production. Any Erfurts after that date without a notch almost certainly were reworks of earlier pieces or made up from earlier parts taken out of storage and placed into service.

Erfurt made Artilleries in 1914 only, but they evidently had a lot of surplus notched receivers which they used up later in the war. Here's a 1916 Erfurt with no notch. Regards, Norm

And here's another. Sorry for the poor photo, I sold this gun years ago. Regards, Norm

And the learning never stops here at Luger U...
dju

I have a solution! The poster could get with me so that we could swap barrels! I have a 1917 DWM with a 4" bbl and a notch in the barrel extension. Aside from the numbers' not matching (my 4" bbl. was numbered to the pistol with a different font by the arsenal or re-worker) we would each wind up with a proper configuration!

:) bam! you can use gunbroker to trade, I just found this all matching all original dwm commercial there.
The kicker is it has two matching mags!!! Buy Now :)

Glad you preceeded your post with a smiley face indicating a joke...as this Gunbroker offering is a joke.