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sheepherder 11-08-2016 11:38 PM

Very cool! Does it have the loaded chamber indicator? It's hard to tell from the pics...I can't see a stock lug either... :(

mrerick 11-09-2016 12:15 AM

Wow, it looks like new... Congratulations! Marc

John Sabato 11-09-2016 10:56 AM

BASED ON THE ELECTION RESULTS, May I recommend that you plan your move OUT of Kalifornia in a hurry. EVEN MORE gun controls passed by the election!

Zorba 11-09-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 295386)
Very cool! Does it have the loaded chamber indicator? It's hard to tell from the pics...I can't see a stock lug either... :(

It does indeed have the LCI, but I'm pretty sure no stock lug as I didn't look for one so didn't notice. Its in very good shape, bore looks brand new!

Zorba 11-09-2016 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 295400)
BASED ON THE ELECTION RESULTS, May I recommend that you plan your move OUT of Kalifornia in a hurry. EVEN MORE gun controls passed by the election!

The countdown continues as it has for some time. 3 months, 3 weeks until the house goes up for sale!

Zorba 11-22-2016 12:48 AM

Its here at last!
 
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Here it is at long last - a couple of quick snaps. Bottom picture, original Finnish mag on the left that came with the piece, A separately ordered Swedish mag in the right that actually arrived the same day! This thing is a beast - a moose of a handgun! If you run outta ammo, throw the pistol at the enemy, you're bound to take out 2 or 3 of them! :jumper:

Zorba 11-22-2016 01:19 AM

Oh, no stock lug. Did I mention this one was an Israeli contract gun?

John Sabato 11-22-2016 10:36 AM

At least they got the grip angle right! :D

I agree... a moose of a gun, and I have seen a moose up close and personal. So close I could feel its breath on me... but that is another story... It is sort of like shooting a 9mm howitzer... Good luck with it. Can't wait to hear how it shoots...

Zorba 11-22-2016 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 295764)
At least they got the grip angle right! :D

Yup, just like a ...





... NAMBU!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup::jumper::cool::D:D

Zorba 11-27-2016 03:18 AM

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Its a tack driver: 50 rds @ 7 yards today:

Zorba 11-27-2016 03:19 AM

The Finnish magazine that came with the pistol performed flawlessly, and it hold 8 rds. The Swedish magazine that I purchased separately, hold only 7, and for some reason the bottom decided to work loose. I'll have to look into that...

gerard 12-25-2016 09:25 AM

A related downloadable publication
 
This downloadable publication might be of interest for you.
Thorough study of the Lahti pistol.

http://www.hlebooks.com/ebook/lahtload.htm

sheepherder 01-02-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba (Post 295755)
Oh, no stock lug. Did I mention this one was an Israeli contract gun?

Interesting - How do you identify it as an Israeli contract L-35? And does it have the accelerator? :confused:

There are a couple new Lahti's being discussed on Still's forum...

Zorba 01-02-2017 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 297207)
Interesting - How do you identify it as an Israeli contract L-35? And does it have the accelerator? :confused:

There are a couple new Lahti's being discussed on Still's forum...

From the serial number and the two little spots where the Israelis removed their markings when they surplussed them out. It does have the accelerator - I've heard a couple of different stories, but I *THINK* all the Finnish guns did.

I'll head over to Still's and see what I can learn...

Thor 01-02-2017 06:00 PM

They are almost impossible to put back together after a DETAIL strip down to individual parts. J.B. Wood (Firearms Disassembly book author) says almost impossible without a special made jig. A small internal part in the middle of the grip area of the frame is held in place by three springs coming in from three different angles, YIKES, took me 5 hours to do a complete reassembly because of this, never again. BEFORE and AFTER PICS
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/Lahti1.jpg
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/Lahti2.jpg
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/DMBF1.jpg
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/DMBF2.jpg
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/DMAFLathiA.jpg
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/DMAFLathiB.jpg

Zorba 01-02-2017 06:27 PM

And people complain about the Ruger Marks...

sheepherder 01-02-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor (Post 297244)
They are almost impossible to put back together after a DETAIL strip down to individual parts. J.B. Wood (Firearms Disassembly book author) says almost impossible without a special made jig.

Interesting; Hoffdchmidt comments on slave pins being used to reassemble magazine catch and spring but doesn't mention the interior parts...Is there a ready-made jig or did you make one up???

Thor 01-03-2017 02:48 PM

sheepherder, I will look at the book I used and give you more info later.
I had my wife's help holding pins or I would have failed this work.

Thor 01-03-2017 05:41 PM

Sheepherder, i could not find that exact reference But I did find my vintage remarks on the sear/hammer assembly I had so much trouble with. This is the link to discussion on it.http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ighlight=lahti
It is not that bad to take apart, damn near impossible to get the sear/hammerspring/hammer back in there. Took me 6 hours, my first P38 took about 45 minutes. Lugers take me around 30 minutes. I would advise against it unless you REALLY need to, then let a gunsmith have the headache. ~Thor~

Here is another good article on this pistol
http://candrsenal.com/disassembly-swedish-lahti-m40/

sheepherder 01-03-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor (Post 297288)
Sheepherder, i could not find that exact reference But I did find my vintage remarks on the sear/hammer assembly I had so much trouble with.

Drat! Over the decades, I've had to make up jigs/fixtures for jobs I had or thought I needed, and while I don't recall if I ever detail-stripped my Lahti M-40, I did buy it in the 80's. If I made a jig for it and only used it once, it would still be on a shelf in my basement.

Problem is, I only started marking my jigs/fixtures in the last 10/12 years, so there's a bunch of 'things' that I have no idea what they are for. Here's a pic of some of them; there's another dozen scattered around, hopefully with the projects I made them for.

I was hoping that a pic of a Lahti jig would jog [no pun intended] my memory. Some of these I know what they're for, but like the one at top right - I have absolutely no clue what it is intended to do, or to what... :rolleyes:

Thor 01-04-2017 05:43 PM

very clever

MFC 01-05-2017 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 297292)
Some of these I know what they're for, but like the one at top right - I have absolutely no clue what it is intended to do, or to what... :rolleyes:

It's for a thingumma.

DonVoigt 01-05-2017 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 297292)
Drat! Over the decades, I've had to make up jigs/fixtures for jobs I had or thought I needed, and while I don't recall if I ever detail-stripped my Lahti M-40, I did buy it in the 80's. If I made a jig for it and only used it once, it would still be on a shelf in my basement.

Problem is, I only started marking my jigs/fixtures in the last 10/12 years, so there's a bunch of 'things' that I have no idea what they are for. Here's a pic of some of them; there's another dozen scattered around, hopefully with the projects I made them for.

I was hoping that a pic of a Lahti jig would jog [no pun intended] my memory. Some of these I know what they're for, but like the one at top right - I have absolutely no clue what it is intended to do, or to what... :rolleyes:

You know magic markers or crayons are just great for marking such stuff!:cool:

sheepherder 01-05-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 297337)
You know magic markers or crayons are just great for marking such stuff!:cool:

At a certain age, you're sure you'll remember what they're for... :rolleyes:

I'll be using crayons soon, just not on jigs & fixtures... :(

Olle 01-29-2017 08:59 PM

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So I finally found one... Not a Lahti L-35, but a Husqvarna M/40 used by the Swedish Air Force (F4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_4_Fr%C3%B6s%C3%B6n ). Unfortunately with an import stamp, but the price was right, it does have the accelerator and the condition is excellent. :rockon:

tomaustin 01-29-2017 11:54 PM

OLLE, what is the date of birth of that weapon..?

sheepherder 01-30-2017 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Olle (Post 298113)
So I finally found one... Not a Lahti L-35, but a Husqvarna M/40...

Ugh. You got one of the ugly M40's... :(

Olle 01-30-2017 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tomaustin (Post 298124)
OLLE, what is the date of birth of that weapon..?

I haven't found any info on actual production year per serial number, but it should be pretty early production as it has the hex barrel and a 1st variation slide.

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 298125)
Ugh. You got one of the ugly M40's... :(

I actually like this model better than the smooth barreled ones. The hex barrel is one of the distinct features of this pistol, and I like the "utilitarian" look. No barrel vise needed, just put a wrench on it. As a gunsmith, you just gotta love this feature. :cool:

sheepherder 01-30-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Olle (Post 298135)
I actually like this model better than the smooth barreled ones.

It also has the trigger guard that extends to the front of the frame. That style TG also has a more 'square-ish' profile than the later style.

No matter. It's a Lahti! ;)

I posted this link on pg 1 - you might get an idea of when it was made...

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/m40/pist40_1.htm

Olle 01-31-2017 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 298139)
It also has the trigger guard that extends to the front of the frame. That style TG also has a more 'square-ish' profile than the later style.

No matter. It's a Lahti! ;)

I posted this link on pg 1 - you might get an idea of when it was made...

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/m40/pist40_1.htm

That's my favorite reference when it comes to Swedish guns, but it can be a bit confusing sometimes. I wish they would sort it out a bit and show the different generations side by side in chronological order together with serial number ranges. And some info is just plain wrong, like for example:
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All Military m/40 pistols were melted down in Sweden

On the 23rd of January 1991 there was an accident with a blown up pistol m/40 in the Swedish Army, which resulted in physical damage to a soldier.

Since that time these pistols have been banned and now, according to a General Order, all of them destroyed. These Swedish pistols were never sold as surplus.
There's obviously plenty of surplus guns and many of them are still used by target shooters in Sweden, some of which were actually donated by the army for use in shooting clubs when they were taken out of service. Also, I did my military service in '82-'83, and I didn't get any pistol training as they simply didn't have any pistols left (ie: 10 years earlier than they state). The new issue gun (Glock 17) was accepted in 1988, and at that time there shouldn't have been any M/40s left in use.

In any case, that trigger guard is a bit ungainly looking, but on the other hand: This gun is a behemoth and the smaller trigger guard looks out of place IMO. Pretty or not, I think it looks like it belongs there. You just can't make an M/40 look elegant. ;)

Zorba 01-31-2017 06:06 PM

World's first crew served pistol! :jumper:

a65l 02-21-2022 04:26 PM

So I joined the Lahti club today. I'll get a couple pics when I get a minute, but it looks just about like any other Lahti out there. M40, Danish contract, fairly low (54xx) serial number. I took it out and put some rounds through it.. once i figured out where it was shooting, it seems to throw pretty consistent groups.
I got it off Gunbroker, and I actually put in fairly low bids on 2 Danish contract M40's. Well, turns out their not the hot thing right now, and I wound up winning both. Ah well, guess I'll have to sell one. I think I'll wait until the other one arrives and see which one I like better...

Question, though. Serial number is prefaced with "d", and is in the correct range.. but it dosen't have the HV under the Danish crown on the but end of the receiver. Receiver and slide have matching S/N''s. I also don't see an import mark anywhere... any thoughts?


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