Here one of his real gems~http://www.bellandcorbettoutfitters....avy_Luger.html

One test shot or full magazine is like test driving a new car! You are not losing its virginity!! All new guns offered for sale are test fired for intregity and safety. They often include the paper target for accuracy. Eric

I'm thinking that the grips on this Martz Navy are not born of the Sarkisian/Tomec collaboration. These in the pics for this listing look like the typical cheap-o repro!

Martz navy
 

Hi David, You are 100% correct, the gun is definitely JVM made! The grips are definitely not!!! :eek:... I'm sure some one put the repro grips on for shooting, and then they, the original custom grips, became lost for what ever reason?.... And so it goes!...til...lat'r....GT,,,,:jumper:

Hi,

Those certainly are NOT Martz grips!!!!

Sieger

I found a couple of old, original photo prints, with John Martz' signature and a 1979 date in my archives.

Thought this was a good place to show one.

I agree. They are 'fantasy reproductions', mostly made from Luger parts, and 'prettied up'. Yes, a lot of time and effort, but not 100% copied from the original .45 Lugers, and IMO a novelty item, rather than a collectible. :thumbup:

I think Ed's estimate is accurate. I really can't understand some peoples' obsession with .45 caliber Lugers [coff 'Eugene Golubtsov' coff] to the exclusion of other more historical restorations, but to each his own, I guess... :rolleyes: