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klaus 3338 02-20-2015 04:42 AM

The circle is showing crossed swords and is a commercial trade mark of "Franken und Lüneschloss" which was located in Suhl.

Sergio Natali 02-20-2015 07:01 AM

You're absolutely correct, I'm part of other forums too (mainly 1911 but also SIG and Glock), but such an old fashion word like "camaraderie" I believe belongs only to this forum.

Sergio

Lugerdoc 02-20-2015 11:46 AM

Pepsi, As said above this pistol would have had a dated chamber when it left Erfurt. I agree with Ron Wood, that this pistol was reworked by the Germans after 1939, due to the Nazi era commercial eagle/n stamped over the WW1 proof. Also that it also went thru the Birmingham cross swords proofing over the Erfurt inspector's markings. Interesting, but still probably just a shooter. TH

John Sabato 02-20-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsicolla (Post 267649)
This listing seems to indicate the opposite of that. Unless Im missing something?

http://www.gunauction.com/buy/8825911

Let me reiterate, Erfurt was a government owned and operated arsenal that ONLY made military P.08 pistols under license from DWM to meet the need during WW1.

The Artillery model in the link you have above is a gun that has been extensively refinished commercially. While at some point it may have been surplused by the government of Germany and sold into the civilian market, this is not a commercial Luger, but a refinished military Erfurt Luger.

pepsicolla 02-20-2015 12:19 PM

John, So its your saying the one in the listing had the date filed off during the refinishing process?

DavidJayUden 02-20-2015 12:23 PM

I'm certainly not John, but IMHO the listed firearm could have a replacement upper receiver OR it could have had the date obliterated. Regardless of the case, again IMHO, that seller is full of beans...
dju

John Sabato 02-20-2015 02:33 PM

I concur with David

cirelaw 02-20-2015 02:56 PM

John, Was Erfurt building any other type of firearm at the time other than the PO8? I know Mauser was producng rifles as well? Who made all the ammo? Thank you ~ Eric

John Sabato 02-20-2015 03:35 PM

I don't know who made the ammo. Not my area of knowledge. But yes, Erfurt also made rifles.

cirelaw 02-20-2015 05:25 PM

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I did find an article by old reliable~Eric http://www.landofborchardt.com/1900-...o-article.html

cirelaw 02-20-2015 05:35 PM

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Getting Warm~~~http://www.landofborchardt.com/ammo_catalogs.html

cirelaw 02-20-2015 05:52 PM

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Here is what I have been looking for!! http://two_guns.tripod.com/gunmfg/dwm.htm A sample page~

ithacaartist 02-20-2015 09:42 PM

Pepsi,

Your LP.08 shows signs of significant buffing as well as re-bluing over pitting, thus John Sabato's observations...

It's, shall we say, "distinctive"... And it should make a great shooter!

I looked at the listing (which should be found in the fiction section), and I'm curious about the proofs stamped on the back of the frame. Does anyone have a proposed run-down on what's going on there?

DavidJayUden 02-20-2015 09:48 PM

That listing isn't for the gun in question, but was instead used as an example of the commercialization process. For info. only.
I agree that the frame was clearly refinished, among other deficiencies.
dju


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