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CAP Black 12-22-2012 10:35 PM

Barrel length
 
The lengths are displayed in several Luger variation books. I think it was 24, just from memory.
Jack

cirelaw 12-23-2012 08:31 AM

Thank You! Were barrels interchangeable?

CAP Black 12-23-2012 12:26 PM

Not sure.
 
I don't know much about the mechanics but I think the barrels are interchangeable as long as sticking with: short frame - short frame, etc.
At the shop they would machine the barrel to fit if need be. Hopefully, the pros will give us the real scoop.

Jack

cirelaw 12-23-2012 12:40 PM

Does the length and diameter of the barrel effect the size of the load!

CAP Black 12-23-2012 10:30 PM

Loads
 
Yes, he says to use Fiocchi loads to get good cycling; also to get good cycling to shoot with the stock attached. I fired 7 rounds before returning home. Noticed a small crack in the stock after the firing and returning home. Waiting to hear if the crack could be a stress fracture. Don't know of what to think of the crack. Didn't beat on it with a hammer - not at those prices, I assure you.

My way of thinking (and I am no engineer) is that if energy needs to be transferred to the stock, for good action, could the energy be excessive and show up in a piece of weak wood in the stock??

Awaiting word from Eugene.
It makes sense that longer barrels need more thrust to get velocity.
Jack

Michael Zeleny 12-24-2012 01:57 PM

It bears notice that substantially reworked guns cease to qualify as Curios and Relics, and become subject to the NFA SBR registration provisions. In other words, a replica of the Luger carbine requires a $200 stamp for legal attachment of the shoulder stock.

cirelaw 12-24-2012 02:18 PM

Should I assume this doesnt apply to our legit lugers? Is the stamp transferable?

Ron Wood 12-24-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Zeleny (Post 225688)
It bears notice that substantially reworked guns cease to qualify as Curios and Relics, and become subject to the NFA SBR registration provisions. In other words, a replica of the Luger carbine requires a $200 stamp for legal attachment of the shoulder stock.

Most modern carbine replicas, including those made by John Martz, have barrels of 16-inches or longer thus eliminating them from SBR restrictions and the $200 stamp. They are legal with a stock attached.

Michael Zeleny 12-24-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 225691)
Should I assume this doesnt apply to our legit lugers? Is the stamp transferable?

Certain stocked handguns, such as original semiautomatic Mauser C96 "Broomhandles" and Luger carbines, Artilleries, Navies, Finnish 7.65 mm M/23 and 9 mm M/08 pistols, and American Eagles with the Ideal holster stock, have been removed from the purview of the NFA as collectors' items. [26 U.S.C. 5845, 27 CFR 479.11] The one-time transfer tax stamp must be purchased by each transferee.

Michael Zeleny 12-24-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 225692)
Most modern carbine replicas, including those made by John Martz, have barrels of 16-inches or longer thus eliminating them from SBR restrictions and the $200 stamp. They are legal with a stock attached.

That is true, but they no longer qualify as Curios and Relics.

cirelaw 12-24-2012 03:31 PM

Ron is it legal to shoot without the stock??? Would it be considered altered?

wlyon 12-24-2012 07:28 PM

Eric
If you have an original and original or reproduction stock for a Navy or Artillery you may shoot them in both stocked and non stocked configuration. Bill

Savidio44 02-27-2013 10:45 PM

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Received my Luger back from Eugene today. The work is fabulous by my definition. I am very happy with the results. He promised the pistol by the end of February - it showed up on 2/27. I am sure others may have had bad experiences, but mine has been great. He did what he said he was going to do, the work is excellent and I got it on time. I will try to get decent photos but I have tried and they do not depict the pistol fairly. I'll keep working on it.

DavidJayUden 03-01-2013 04:12 AM

Very nice. He does some very good work.
dju

alanint 03-01-2013 06:25 AM

Eugene is an excellent craftsman, but an average communicator. If you have a complete understanding prior to commitment, Eugene usually comes through.

Savidio44 03-01-2013 02:06 PM

Watson Luger by Lugerman
 
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Attached are some photos sent to me by Eugene. These were taken before he made the grips for my Luger. Obviously, his photography skills are beyond mine. It's a shame I can't get better photos myself because the grips he made and the fit of them to the pistol are perfect.:thumbup:

LugerMan.com 03-01-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 229934)
Eugene is an excellent craftsman, but an average communicator. If you have a complete understanding prior to commitment, Eugene usually comes through.


Thanks for the USUALLY :cheers:

LugerMan.com 03-01-2013 02:30 PM

More pictures
 
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Here are some pictures of that project posted by customers request.

Thanks.

LugerMan.com 03-01-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CAP Black (Post 225526)
I read much about the complaints about Eugene for a year or more. Well, I ordered a 1920 makeover into a carbine back in March. He basically said he felt that he would get it done in 12 months - the normal promised time. Most of the time, he answered my e-mails; inquiring of the progress. But a few times he didn't. I never growled at him and never complained. I treated him with respect and as a customer would a talented vendor-craftsman.
Guess what? A week or so ago, he e-mailed me and said he might have it for me in 3 or 4 days. On Sunday he said it was finished. I went to his place (350 miles) and picked it up on Wednesday. It's a beaut.
See some pictures attached.



A carbine that started this post wad started as a DWM 1920 Commercial

All wood: Stock, forearm, grips and wood bottom made from same wood block.

Barrel is green mountain barrels blank, turned.
Front and rear sight made from 4140 block of steel.

Hope that helps.

Thanks.

alanint 03-02-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 229951)
Thanks for the USUALLY :cheers:

Sorry, Eugene. Perhaps "eventually" would have been more appropriate. You cannot deny, however, that issues have existed in the past.


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