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John Sabato 03-02-2006 05:43 PM

Visit the DONATE link at the top of any discussion page...

Pete Ebbink 03-03-2006 10:55 PM

Here is the Guns America ad from FGS that this crook took the photo from for their scam...

http://216.219.244.51/guns/976570719.htm

lew1 03-04-2006 07:51 AM

I see that Ebay has not yet pulled the auction. You would think that they would be more careful - expecially after getting sued over permitting the sale of knockoffs on Ebay.

I see also that there is a new high bidder in the auction.

stefanosg 03-04-2006 08:10 AM

Wasn't the price much higher? I would have sworn they had it ovger 1000 dollars. Now its only at 202.

lew1 03-04-2006 02:09 PM

The bidding history does not show any retracted bids.

Pete Ebbink 03-04-2006 02:15 PM

I sent e-Bay a note as well as the current high bidder "oeash"...whom I met in person at the SOS show.

olivier5848 03-04-2006 02:59 PM

Hello to all
As I have say I have contact the seller and ask more pic. Here he's answer:
"Hallo,
alle verf�¼gbaren Photos sind in der Auktion aufgef�¼hrt

Marie"
Translation: all the pic I have are in the auction Marie
We can see he have change his name since lu1900 (Patrice) has write him, before it was "Martin" and yet "Marie"... curious?!?!

Then I have say him: I travel in all Germany and if I he can give me his adress or give me a meeting point.

Since no answer.

I my opinion: fraud.

Best regards

Olivier

Dwight Gruber 03-04-2006 06:48 PM

I wonder if ebay's lack of action is due to the the "unofficial" nature of the notice? It may be that they will only take action if FGS notifys them...

--Dwight

Big Norm 03-04-2006 09:36 PM

AH-H-H!! The beauty of this forum brilliantly shines again.
Big Norm :cheers:

John Sabato 03-06-2006 07:34 AM

I also contacted oeash via ebay... and warned him.

Mike B 03-06-2006 07:50 AM

If you go to the closed auction you will see that "wirstmichvermissen" the seller is No longer a registered user.
Mike

John Sabato 03-06-2006 07:53 AM

Nice detective work Mike...

We can chalk up another world-wide fraud prevented due to the membership here... We are the eyes and ears of the legal Luger collecting community.

hqbmw 03-07-2006 01:16 AM

Patron
 
I sent a donation to John Dunkle of the Forum on Dec 14, 2005. Is there a certain amount one must donate to become a Patron?

Jack Hiles
Mesa AZ

John Sabato 03-07-2006 03:22 PM

Jack, please contact John D. directly by private message. Let him know how you sent the donation. If it was by mail, it may not have been received. If by paypal, you will have a transaction number you can reference. ...and the answer is no, there is no certain amount... just what your heart tells you is right. It may be that John D. somehow overlooked the donation... I am sure it is just an oversight... Thanks for your support.


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