Fiocchi 9MM FMJ-FP COMBATAvailable

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

Opinions often vary, that's one reason I am here to learn.

Of the REAL 9mm NATO ammo I have fired (cross in circle proofed, crimped primers) it has all produced breach block slap! This will, eventually, destroy a Luger!

A lot different types of ammo will make a Luger "work". To work "right", you should be able to place 8 shots to one hole at 25 yards with no jams in at least 1,000 rounds fired.

This can be done with proper hand loads, but NOT with any modern commercial ammo that I am aware of.

Sieger

I'd still be interested in the velocity if you measured any, along with the source(country or mfg) of the real Nato ammo.

I have ammo with the Nato cross/circle which should be real, but when compared "roughly" by firing, it is not any hotter, and this is the same ammo that the mfg reports in the 1050 to 1100 fps, and yes it has the supposed Nato mark.

Perhaps only the brass is "Nato" and the loads are commercial?

You must be kidding about 8 rounds in one hole; with all due respect I do not buy it from a 4" luger, not even from a machine rest.

1000 rounds without malfunction, sure there are some pistols that would do that, but it would wear me out!