Mauser Eagle... - Page 2

Jack Lawman · 07-24-2007, 01:05 PM

Could those grips be the heretofore undiscovered Walther, subliminally proofed, subcontracted, hand carved ivory variation?

Just a thought

,
Jack

Ron Wood · 07-24-2007, 01:15 PM

Good eye Jack. I was trying to figure out that odd mark myself. Also, does anyone have any thoughts about the "FBM" mark on the frame rail and the odd cutout on the top front of the sideplate? I have a really wild guess. The emblem on the grip looks fairly crude and I think it might be laser cut. There is a paintball gun manufacturing outfit in Pennsylvania, right next door to Maryland, called Fireball Mountain. Their logo is a stylized FBM (not like on this gun) and they do custom laser engraving and anodizing. I suspect this gun was customized by a former owner, possibly by Fireball Mountain.

Rod WMG · 07-24-2007, 01:52 PM

"My personal feeling is that the pistol is not in his original configuration.
Most probably this pistol was originally blued with ivory grips an after has been gold washed and the grips modified with the American Eagle.
Cheers,
Mauro"

After seeing the different photos, my impressions is that Mauro is correct. There are a lot of different colors here, it seems. It looks pretty well done, however. I particularly like the grips, though I usually don't like laser work on guns.

jrhines · 07-24-2007, 05:12 PM

..before we make any decisions. My understanding is that he bought it new from Interarms in VA, I belive while they were still in business, maybe late 60's (just a guess???). I'll find out, (not before Thursday) and I'll be back.

mauro · 07-24-2007, 05:21 PM

Just to clarify the marks in the previous topics:
The mark Jack refers is the Ulm Proofhouse Proof, 66 means 1966 and on the left the Eagle/Nitro proof.

FBM means Firmen Beschuss Mauser. It is the internal Mauser House proof used in the Parabellum exported in USA that doesn't need the Ulm proof and the date.

As far as the "cut" you mention Ron, it is common to all the Mauser Parabellum production. Don't ask me why :-)

Have fun.
Mauro

Ron Wood · 07-24-2007, 08:37 PM

Well that makes a lot more sense than a paintball company customization!

I still wonder about the grip decoration and gold finish. It doesn't look like Mauser quality .

mauro · 07-25-2007, 01:14 PM

Ron,
This is my impression as well. I have seen in these years several Mauser Parabellum "Special production" and the quality was always superbe.
This one seems not be alligned with the expected quality.

Ciao
Mauro

John Sabato · 07-25-2007, 03:58 PM

In answer to an earlier question on the number of photos you can put in a single post... I believe it is eight... and that includes smilies...

07-24-2007, 01:05 PM	#21
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	Possibility? Could those grips be the heretofore undiscovered Walther, subliminally proofed, subcontracted, hand carved ivory variation? Just a thought , Jack __________________ Why do you guys hate black circles so much?

07-24-2007, 01:15 PM	#22
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Good eye Jack. I was trying to figure out that odd mark myself. Also, does anyone have any thoughts about the "FBM" mark on the frame rail and the odd cutout on the top front of the sideplate? I have a really wild guess. The emblem on the grip looks fairly crude and I think it might be laser cut. There is a paintball gun manufacturing outfit in Pennsylvania, right next door to Maryland, called Fireball Mountain. Their logo is a stylized FBM (not like on this gun) and they do custom laser engraving and anodizing. I suspect this gun was customized by a former owner, possibly by Fireball Mountain. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-24-2007, 05:12 PM	#24
jrhines User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Let me get the local history from the owner.. ..before we make any decisions. My understanding is that he bought it new from Interarms in VA, I belive while they were still in business, maybe late 60's (just a guess???). I'll find out, (not before Thursday) and I'll be back. __________________ Regards, J.Rhines

07-24-2007, 05:21 PM	#25
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Just to clarify the marks in the previous topics: The mark Jack refers is the Ulm Proofhouse Proof, 66 means 1966 and on the left the Eagle/Nitro proof. FBM means Firmen Beschuss Mauser. It is the internal Mauser House proof used in the Parabellum exported in USA that doesn't need the Ulm proof and the date. As far as the "cut" you mention Ron, it is common to all the Mauser Parabellum production. Don't ask me why :-) Have fun. Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-24-2007, 08:37 PM	#26
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Well that makes a lot more sense than a paintball company customization! I still wonder about the grip decoration and gold finish. It doesn't look like Mauser quality . __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-24-2007, 01:52 PM	#23
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"My personal feeling is that the pistol is not in his original configuration. Most probably this pistol was originally blued with ivory grips an after has been gold washed and the grips modified with the American Eagle. Cheers, Mauro" After seeing the different photos, my impressions is that Mauro is correct. There are a lot of different colors here, it seems. It looks pretty well done, however. I particularly like the grips, though I usually don't like laser work on guns.

07-25-2007, 01:14 PM	#27
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Ron, This is my impression as well. I have seen in these years several Mauser Parabellum "Special production" and the quality was always superbe. This one seems not be alligned with the expected quality. Ciao Mauro __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

07-25-2007, 03:58 PM	#28
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	In answer to an earlier question on the number of photos you can put in a single post... I believe it is eight... and that includes smilies... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*