Choice between two lugers

Brien · 04-13-2016, 12:16 PM

These are a bit on the high side for shooters, but what would be your choice

A matching 1937 s/42 ex vopo with the seal stamped out or a reblued byf 41, that now has a plumb receiver? Both have good bores.

Hope the pics come out

sheepherder · 04-13-2016, 12:57 PM

Wouldn't you rather have the Nambu??? Be one of the 'Scourge of the Pacific'!

VoPo's usually have new barrels, and are built with 'good' parts. The price is not too fantastic.

Sergio Natali · 04-13-2016, 01:13 PM

I would agree with Richard, although I don't use any Luger at the range, I think I would prefer the Vopo's, and I would add they are not on the cheap side either.

Regards.

Brien · 04-13-2016, 01:56 PM

Sheepherder,

They actually have a 1929 nambu for $895.00. I'm just not into Japanese firearms.

spartacus38 · 04-13-2016, 02:11 PM

I would pass on both.
Save a little more money and buy a 95% original Luger (all matching except mag).
Bob

Mac Cat · 04-13-2016, 03:53 PM

They are $500-600 guns. Keep looking!

kurusu · 04-13-2016, 04:19 PM

Either one will be a good shooter choice. You pick the one you fancy most.

sheepherder · 04-13-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brien

Sheepherder,

They actually have a 1929 nambu for $895.00. I'm just not into Japanese firearms.

Yes, we can see it hanging on the wall behind the $1019 Luger. That is too much for a Nambu, unless it has the clamshell holster, extra magazine, and cleaning rod. And is a Winter trigger guard Type 14 in excellent condition. Otherwise, $600-$650.

I wasn't into Japanese handguns either, but a member here bought one & showed it off, and I started doodling with PhotoShop and came up with an 'artillery' Nambu, and that kick started me into doing three more long-barreled handguns with tangent sights.

But I digress...

The VoPo has a history that no other variation of Luger does - It's life didn't stop in 1945. The East German police [VolksPolizei] either used this Luger or stockpiled it for emergency use. Perhaps some day soon we will learn the armories that built these from parts, what units were issued them, or where they were stored. That's history, and VoPo's are a part of it.

DonVoigt · 04-13-2016, 04:30 PM

I'd go for the Vopo, but try to bargain to under $1000.

DonVoigt · 04-13-2016, 04:36 PM

"Yes, we can see it hanging on the wall behind the $1019 Luger. That is too much for a Nambu, unless it has the clamshell holster, extra magazine, and cleaning rod. And is a Winter trigger guard Type 14 in excellent condition. Otherwise, $600-$650. "

Dream on, the days of $600 Nambu pistols in matching shape is long gone.
Magazines are getting into "luger" territory price wise, minimum $125; a rig as you describe will run close to a grand if in any shape at all.

sheepherder · 04-13-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Dream on, the days of $600 Nambu pistols in matching shape is long gone.

I carve my dreams in cold steel, friend.

I forget what Zorba paid, but I think $600 is what I paid...When was that, two years ago???

I'd have to dig out my receipt...I paid $650 and got the second magazine. Only one mag matched; the other was a different serial but fit better/looked better. And the Nambu had a chipped extractor.

Zorba · 04-13-2016, 06:12 PM

I paid somewhere around $600-$650 for my Nambu. Was able to find the matching mag on eBay for $180. Sweet shooting gun.

But IN GENERAL, I've found prices quoted on this forum to be "optimistic" to say the least, real world prices seem to be a bit higher!

mrerick · 04-13-2016, 06:46 PM

If they are both all matching, go for the one that has the best / sharpest appearance. The S/42 has a cracked left grip.

They are at best $700-$850 guns since the VoPo could have been acquired a year or two ago for $600.

I'd rather have a Mauser made shooter properly fit mismatched gun that hasn't been reblued and heavily buffed.

The 41 byf has that overbuffed look which I don't like at all. The plum color would not be as much of an issue. If it doesn't come with a correct period magazine (a FXO) I wouldn't bother with it at that price.

Marc

P08Leder · 04-13-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac Cat

They are $500-600 guns. Keep looking!

Where do you shop?
Do you have any for sale in this price range?

ithacaartist · 04-13-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

The 41 byf has that overbuffed look which I don't like at all.

Marc

I'll say! They buffed the Mauser hump right off!

Caferacer · 04-14-2016, 12:27 AM

For the extra $25 you get a magazine with the top one

Dwight Gruber · 04-14-2016, 03:54 AM

For a shooter, you will need to buy an aftermarket magazine (think Mec-Gar) regardless of which Luger you choose.

--Dwight

04-13-2016, 12:16 PM	#1
Brien User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Choctaw ok Posts: 53 Thanks: 17 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Choice between two lugers These are a bit on the high side for shooters, but what would be your choice A matching 1937 s/42 ex vopo with the seal stamped out or a reblued byf 41, that now has a plumb receiver? Both have good bores. Hope the pics come out Attached Thumbnails

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	Wouldn't you rather have the Nambu??? Be one of the 'Scourge of the Pacific'! VoPo's usually have new barrels, and are built with 'good' parts. The price is not too fantastic. __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

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Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I would agree with Richard, although I don't use any Luger at the range, I think I would prefer the Vopo's, and I would add they are not on the cheap side either. Regards. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

04-13-2016, 01:56 PM	#4
Brien User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Choctaw ok Posts: 53 Thanks: 17 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Nambu Sheepherder, They actually have a 1929 nambu for $895.00. I'm just not into Japanese firearms.

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	I'd go for the Vopo, but try to bargain to under $1000. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	I would pass on both. Save a little more money and buy a 95% original Luger (all matching except mag). Bob

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Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 672 Thanks: 2,012 Thanked 542 Times in 292 Posts	They are $500-600 guns. Keep looking!

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kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 929 Times in 509 Posts	Either one will be a good shooter choice. You pick the one you fancy most.

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	"Yes, we can see it hanging on the wall behind the $1019 Luger. That is too much for a Nambu, unless it has the clamshell holster, extra magazine, and cleaning rod. And is a Winter trigger guard Type 14 in excellent condition. Otherwise, $600-$650. " Dream on, the days of $600 Nambu pistols in matching shape is long gone. Magazines are getting into "luger" territory price wise, minimum $125; a rig as you describe will run close to a grand if in any shape at all. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

04-13-2016, 06:12 PM	#12
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 951 Thanks: 776 Thanked 526 Times in 289 Posts	I paid somewhere around $600-$650 for my Nambu. Was able to find the matching mag on eBay for $180. Sweet shooting gun. But IN GENERAL, I've found prices quoted on this forum to be "optimistic" to say the least, real world prices seem to be a bit higher!

04-13-2016, 06:46 PM	#13
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	If they are both all matching, go for the one that has the best / sharpest appearance. The S/42 has a cracked left grip. They are at best $700-$850 guns since the VoPo could have been acquired a year or two ago for $600. I'd rather have a Mauser made shooter properly fit mismatched gun that hasn't been reblued and heavily buffed. The 41 byf has that overbuffed look which I don't like at all. The plum color would not be as much of an issue. If it doesn't come with a correct period magazine (a FXO) I wouldn't bother with it at that price. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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Caferacer User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 60 Thanks: 96 Thanked 25 Times in 13 Posts	For the extra $25 you get a magazine with the top one

04-14-2016, 03:54 AM	#17
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	For a shooter, you will need to buy an aftermarket magazine (think Mec-Gar) regardless of which Luger you choose. --Dwight