Fake or Real 1941 P08 Holster

instructor · 01-23-2016, 07:20 PM

Please help!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181997237258...649&ssPageName

alanint · 01-23-2016, 07:54 PM

The biggest concern I have is the tool pouch is sewn on crooked.

mrerick · 01-23-2016, 08:53 PM

It looks like a modern reproduction to me.

Look at the "8" in P.08... Never seen that style before...

cirelaw · 01-23-2016, 08:54 PM

Doug, the impressions are too perfect and uniform! No belt wear!

lugerholsterrepair · 01-23-2016, 09:02 PM

I looked this over pretty well and it doesn't appear to be a fake. Made a little weird in some respects. Like Erick says the 8 in P-08 is certainly different. The belt loops look short too? The markings otherwise look good? The wear, patina and thread look authentic. Buckle looks good. The construction I could find no fault with. Almost has to be good...$500? Leather is going higher and higher..

lugerholsterrepair · 01-23-2016, 09:16 PM

Eric, Pakistan and India. China has been coming out with good ones recently.

cirelaw · 01-23-2016, 09:23 PM

I guess its like knock off Louis handbags!

lugerholsterrepair · 01-23-2016, 09:32 PM

Let's hope the holster fakers don't get that good at it!

cirelaw · 01-23-2016, 09:48 PM

There has to be a lot more of a market for handbags and high heels! Thank God for persons like yourself keeping them honest!!

lugerholsterrepair · 01-23-2016, 09:53 PM

Erik, Yes..There is a very tiny market for repro holsters compared to handbags and high heels! I would guess.

Sergio Natali · 01-24-2016, 05:29 AM

Also here where I live the vast majority of "vintage" holsters are bogus, sometimes well made too! It's upsetting.

CJS57 · 01-24-2016, 08:59 AM

If that holster is fake then we collectors are in big trouble. It looks original and 70 years old to me. The problem with all the fakes around nowdays is that it has put us all on guard to the point where any deviation from the norm is immediately deemed fake, phony and fraud. But we know that there were 100's of holster makers and certainly there is some room for deviation in a hand made item. I would think if it is truly a repro holster, then we will see more of this variation on the market. Just too much profit to make only one...............

CAP Black · 01-24-2016, 09:50 AM

Someone took a big chance ---- $ 500.00; even if real. Wow and the location, too: Russia!!!!!!
Jack

DonVoigt · 01-24-2016, 11:13 AM

We don't know what it sold for,-- $500 was the "asking" price,
the seller accepted a "best offer", could have been $100 or $10!

cirelaw · 01-24-2016, 12:22 PM

Not as nice! Any history/info??

01-23-2016, 07:20 PM	#1
instructor User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 34 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Fake or Real 1941 P08 Holster Please help! http://www.ebay.com/itm/181997237258...649&ssPageName

01-23-2016, 08:53 PM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	It looks like a modern reproduction to me. Look at the "8" in P.08... Never seen that style before... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-23-2016, 08:54 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Doug, the impressions are too perfect and uniform! No belt wear! Attached Thumbnails

01-23-2016, 09:02 PM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I looked this over pretty well and it doesn't appear to be a fake. Made a little weird in some respects. Like Erick says the 8 in P-08 is certainly different. The belt loops look short too? The markings otherwise look good? The wear, patina and thread look authentic. Buckle looks good. The construction I could find no fault with. Almost has to be good...$500? Leather is going higher and higher.. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-23-2016, 09:16 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Eric, Pakistan and India. China has been coming out with good ones recently. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-23-2016, 07:54 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The biggest concern I have is the tool pouch is sewn on crooked.

01-23-2016, 09:23 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I guess its like knock off Louis handbags!

01-23-2016, 09:32 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Let's hope the holster fakers don't get that good at it! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-23-2016, 09:48 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	There has to be a lot more of a market for handbags and high heels! Thank God for persons like yourself keeping them honest!!

01-23-2016, 09:53 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Erik, Yes..There is a very tiny market for repro holsters compared to handbags and high heels! I would guess. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-24-2016, 05:29 AM	#11
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Also here where I live the vast majority of "vintage" holsters are bogus, sometimes well made too! It's upsetting. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

01-24-2016, 08:59 AM	#12
CJS57 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 81 Times in 41 Posts	If that holster is fake then we collectors are in big trouble. It looks original and 70 years old to me. The problem with all the fakes around nowdays is that it has put us all on guard to the point where any deviation from the norm is immediately deemed fake, phony and fraud. But we know that there were 100's of holster makers and certainly there is some room for deviation in a hand made item. I would think if it is truly a repro holster, then we will see more of this variation on the market. Just too much profit to make only one...............

01-24-2016, 09:50 AM	#13
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	Someone took a big chance ---- $ 500.00; even if real. Wow and the location, too: Russia!!!!!! Jack

01-24-2016, 11:13 AM	#14
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	We don't know what it sold for,-- $500 was the "asking" price, the seller accepted a "best offer", could have been $100 or $10! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-24-2016, 12:22 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I Think I Found One In My Closet!! Not as nice! Any history/info?? Attached Thumbnails