conversion kit 4mm

10e.licorne · 04-15-2005, 02:02 AM

I have to purchage this two conversion kit
If any one may help me if something is missing
for the box 2 I now the tip is missing and if any one may send me a proportion sketch thanks
all information on history welcome

thanks

Vlim · 04-17-2005, 10:20 AM

Hi,

These are commercial 4mm practice kits. They cannot be compared with the 22 longrifle army subcalibre inserts.

These kits are simple, one-shot sets which relied on some trickery to place a 4mm round in the chamber, close the toggle, fire, get it out again, etc....

Some used dummy rounds to hold the 4mm cartridge, others used a 'spoon' to place a cartrigde in the chamber.

The first version was marketed by Genschow, later followed by R.W.S. in Germany. The are mentioned in a 1922 publication, so they have been around for a while. Sadly, I have no info on Lienhard.

10e.licorne · 04-18-2005, 01:48 AM

thanks for this infos
may be some one may give me more info on this model
best regards

Edward Tinker · 04-18-2005, 05:29 AM

If you can buy it, then why not?

Fun things to own!

Ed

pisto · 04-19-2005, 02:37 PM

Lienhard is a Swiss product - it is genious idea like he designed to fire just with primers instead of the 4mm M20 cardridge used by the Germans.
The first kit I havenÃ?Â´t seen before, but the second has the large cardridge for the M31 Swiss rifle and the small 7,65 mm Luger cardridge. However on the second one is missing a part to use in the Luger pistol.

04-15-2005, 02:02 AM	#1
10e.licorne User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: near Perpignan in France Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	conversion kit 4mm I have to purchage this two conversion kit If any one may help me if something is missing for the box 2 I now the tip is missing and if any one may send me a proportion sketch thanks all information on history welcome thanks __________________ d'nt say i will do it .... do it

04-18-2005, 01:48 AM	#3
10e.licorne User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: near Perpignan in France Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thanks for this infos may be some one may give me more info on this model best regards __________________ d'nt say i will do it .... do it

04-18-2005, 05:29 AM	#4
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04-17-2005, 10:20 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Hi, These are commercial 4mm practice kits. They cannot be compared with the 22 longrifle army subcalibre inserts. These kits are simple, one-shot sets which relied on some trickery to place a 4mm round in the chamber, close the toggle, fire, get it out again, etc.... Some used dummy rounds to hold the 4mm cartridge, others used a 'spoon' to place a cartrigde in the chamber. The first version was marketed by Genschow, later followed by R.W.S. in Germany. The are mentioned in a 1922 publication, so they have been around for a while. Sadly, I have no info on Lienhard.

04-19-2005, 02:37 PM	#5
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lienhard is a Swiss product - it is genious idea like he designed to fire just with primers instead of the 4mm M20 cardridge used by the Germans. The first kit I havenÃ?Â´t seen before, but the second has the large cardridge for the M31 Swiss rifle and the small 7,65 mm Luger cardridge. However on the second one is missing a part to use in the Luger pistol.