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45TAA45 · 11-13-2006, 09:38 PM

I have a Luger magazine that has 2/1001 on the side. Can anyone tell me what this is? era, etc. The Magazine is in a 1940 42 code Luger. It looks like a type 3 according to Still's book but I can't find the 2/1001 in any book to identify. stumped.

Edward Tinker · 11-13-2006, 09:57 PM

east german (post war).

they called the p08 and its magazines the 2/1001

ed

45TAA45 · 11-13-2006, 10:02 PM

Thanks Ed. Looks like I need to find a correct Mag for my 1940 42 code Luger.

Lugerdoc · 11-14-2006, 09:47 AM

If your PO8 is a DDR rework and the 2/1001 mag is numbered to your gun, I would consider it correct. If not, the correct Nazi issue mag would be the same type extruded shell, but marked with a code 122 and a couple of E/37 inspectors marks. TH

Vlim · 11-14-2006, 10:35 AM

Hi,

The East-Germans used suppliers numbers, kinda like the Germans used the 3-letter codes before and during the war. The East-German supplier numbers (lieferernummer) were 4-digits long. '1001' was the number assigned to the former Haenel works.

Haenel also produced a version of the Walther PP/PPK, dubbed 'pistole 1001', again referring to Haenel as manufacturer.

I have not heard of a proper explanation of the '2' on the magazine, but my best guess is that it's there to distinguish between the magazine of the Pistole 1001 and that of the P08.

45TAA45 · 11-14-2006, 06:41 PM

Lugerdoc

My Luger is Proofed 655. Still's book says type 2 or type 3 for a 1940 DWM Luger. You are correct, 122 E/37, but I am a little confused. I would think the mag should be proofed the same as the Luger. But what do I know, I will obtain the 122 E/37. If any one has one for Sale or trade let me Know. The suffix is "b" or better yet if you have the # 5983b that would be a match. Thanks to all.

Tom

Frank · 11-14-2006, 07:39 PM

Tom, in that block (5983b) either a type 2 with E/655 or a 122 E/37 would be correct!

I have a 1940 "b" suffix, about 3000 numbers below your pistol, with a matching magazine and it's a Type 2 E/655.

45TAA45 · 11-14-2006, 07:54 PM

Frank

Would you consider a trade and/or cash for the magazine? I have the Post war 2/1001 hanel mag to trade.

I didn't quite understand the last part, do you have the matching Mag?
Thanks
Tom

45TAA45 · 11-14-2006, 10:26 PM

Frank

I read your message again and you are telling me that you have a 1940 Luger with a matching mag. I misunderstood what you meant. Sorry, I guess it comes with age. Anyway, if you come across an E/655 let me know.
Thanks
Tom

Lugerdoc · 11-15-2006, 04:48 PM

TAA, The closest that I would have is a Code 122 Schmeisser #444m with some scattered light pitting on the tube @$90 + $5 S&H. Tom

45TAA45 · 11-15-2006, 06:00 PM

Tom

Thanks, I am watching one on E-Bay. Let me see what happens. I may get back to you soon.

Tom

11-13-2006, 09:38 PM	#1
45TAA45 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ID Magazine I have a Luger magazine that has 2/1001 on the side. Can anyone tell me what this is? era, etc. The Magazine is in a 1940 42 code Luger. It looks like a type 3 according to Still's book but I can't find the 2/1001 in any book to identify. stumped.

11-13-2006, 09:57 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	east german (post war). they called the p08 and its magazines the 2/1001 ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-15-2006, 04:48 PM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	TAA, The closest that I would have is a Code 122 Schmeisser #444m with some scattered light pitting on the tube @$90 + $5 S&H. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-13-2006, 10:02 PM	#3
45TAA45 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Ed. Looks like I need to find a correct Mag for my 1940 42 code Luger.

11-14-2006, 09:47 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	If your PO8 is a DDR rework and the 2/1001 mag is numbered to your gun, I would consider it correct. If not, the correct Nazi issue mag would be the same type extruded shell, but marked with a code 122 and a couple of E/37 inspectors marks. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-14-2006, 10:35 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Hi, The East-Germans used suppliers numbers, kinda like the Germans used the 3-letter codes before and during the war. The East-German supplier numbers (lieferernummer) were 4-digits long. '1001' was the number assigned to the former Haenel works. Haenel also produced a version of the Walther PP/PPK, dubbed 'pistole 1001', again referring to Haenel as manufacturer. I have not heard of a proper explanation of the '2' on the magazine, but my best guess is that it's there to distinguish between the magazine of the Pistole 1001 and that of the P08.

11-14-2006, 06:41 PM	#6
45TAA45 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lugerdoc My Luger is Proofed 655. Still's book says type 2 or type 3 for a 1940 DWM Luger. You are correct, 122 E/37, but I am a little confused. I would think the mag should be proofed the same as the Luger. But what do I know, I will obtain the 122 E/37. If any one has one for Sale or trade let me Know. The suffix is "b" or better yet if you have the # 5983b that would be a match. Thanks to all. Tom

11-14-2006, 07:39 PM	#7
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Tom, in that block (5983b) either a type 2 with E/655 or a 122 E/37 would be correct! I have a 1940 "b" suffix, about 3000 numbers below your pistol, with a matching magazine and it's a Type 2 E/655.

11-14-2006, 07:54 PM	#8
45TAA45 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank Would you consider a trade and/or cash for the magazine? I have the Post war 2/1001 hanel mag to trade. I didn't quite understand the last part, do you have the matching Mag? Thanks Tom

11-14-2006, 10:26 PM	#9
45TAA45 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Frank I read your message again and you are telling me that you have a 1940 Luger with a matching mag. I misunderstood what you meant. Sorry, I guess it comes with age. Anyway, if you come across an E/655 let me know. Thanks Tom

11-15-2006, 06:00 PM	#11
45TAA45 User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tom Thanks, I am watching one on E-Bay. Let me see what happens. I may get back to you soon. Tom