What is this mag?

alamar · 03-27-2010, 10:06 PM

What is with the cut out on the mag on the left? Anyone know? The mags are being sold with this Arty.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-27-2010, 10:47 PM

Al, In short it's the ruination of what appears to be what was once a beautiful Imperial magazine. Certainly wasn't made that way.
The rod is a poorly made fake, the pistol is reblued and the oiler is a fantasy piece. The only nice looking part of this grouping is the unruined magazine.

Jerry Burney

alamar · 03-27-2010, 11:02 PM

Thanks Jerry. Wasnt sure on the mag as I am no expert. Were cleaning rods ever serialed to the pistol? The ad says it has a matching number to the pistol. It is also for sale with a stock and leather. He says the stock is real , but mentions that the leather is a "high quality" repro. $3450 asking. Extremely high up here in the GWN, and pretty sure its high for the US.

alamar · 03-27-2010, 11:18 PM

The blue lanyard must mean that the Luger was an Artillery air force issue.

Edward Tinker · 03-27-2010, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alamar

.. Were cleaning rods ever serialed to the pistol? The ad says it has a matching number to the pistol. ...here in the GWN, and pretty sure its high for the US.

NO

Where is a GWN?

alamar · 03-27-2010, 11:31 PM

Sorry, the Great White North. You know, the place where your brothers in arms are highly outnumbered by all those socialists!

lugerholsterrepair · 03-28-2010, 12:00 AM

Were cleaning rods ever serialed to the pistol? Not on Imperial Artillery's. Some I have seen were Imperial marked on the steel spine with a Crown/letter.

The rod shown is a horrible fake anyway.

The stock appears to be good from what I can see of it. Hard to tell for sure without seeing the stock iron and the wood clearly.

Too many problems on this rig to command a price of over $3000 for me.

Jerry Burney

SIGP2101 · 03-29-2010, 02:31 PM

That oiler belongs to Yugo SKS or Yugo AK-47. Certainly without that eagle medallion glued to it.

Vlim · 03-29-2010, 04:09 PM

The magazine seems to have been rendered inoperable intentionally for one reason or another. The blue 'could' be original, but the photo is not good enough to judge that. The pistol looks awfully dark and the edges of the receiver near the chamber look like they saw some buffing.

Let's hope the butchered magazine was not numbered to the pistol, although a donor magazine body can be found without much problems.

Would make a nice shooter though, for a shooter price, that is

alanint · 03-29-2010, 05:08 PM

I don't think the intention was to render the magazine inoperable. It looks like the follower will still travel freely.
What it does look like is this mag was adapted to work in something other than a luger. By doing so it is now useless for a Luger, as the placement of the new magazine catch hole would no longer secure the mag in a normal Luger frame.

FNorm · 03-29-2010, 06:16 PM

Can the follower button be rotated into that notch? I've seen that someplace, somewhere, sometime.

FN

Vlim · 03-29-2010, 06:23 PM

The magazine catch has been machined away, so if this magazine is inserted into a P08, it will hang low (way too low).

03-27-2010, 10:06 PM	#1
alamar User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 79 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts	What is this mag? What is with the cut out on the mag on the left? Anyone know? The mags are being sold with this Arty. Attached Images

03-27-2010, 10:47 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Al, In short it's the ruination of what appears to be what was once a beautiful Imperial magazine. Certainly wasn't made that way. The rod is a poorly made fake, the pistol is reblued and the oiler is a fantasy piece. The only nice looking part of this grouping is the unruined magazine. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-27-2010, 11:02 PM	#3
alamar User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 79 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Thanks Jerry. Wasnt sure on the mag as I am no expert. Were cleaning rods ever serialed to the pistol? The ad says it has a matching number to the pistol. It is also for sale with a stock and leather. He says the stock is real , but mentions that the leather is a "high quality" repro. $3450 asking. Extremely high up here in the GWN, and pretty sure its high for the US. Attached Images

03-28-2010, 12:00 AM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	Were cleaning rods ever serialed to the pistol? Not on Imperial Artillery's. Some I have seen were Imperial marked on the steel spine with a Crown/letter. The rod shown is a horrible fake anyway. The stock appears to be good from what I can see of it. Hard to tell for sure without seeing the stock iron and the wood clearly. Too many problems on this rig to command a price of over $3000 for me. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-27-2010, 11:18 PM	#4
alamar User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 79 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts	The blue lanyard must mean that the Luger was an Artillery air force issue.

03-27-2010, 11:31 PM	#6
alamar User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 79 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Sorry, the Great White North. You know, the place where your brothers in arms are highly outnumbered by all those socialists!

03-29-2010, 02:31 PM	#8
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	That oiler belongs to Yugo SKS or Yugo AK-47. Certainly without that eagle medallion glued to it.

03-29-2010, 04:09 PM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	The magazine seems to have been rendered inoperable intentionally for one reason or another. The blue 'could' be original, but the photo is not good enough to judge that. The pistol looks awfully dark and the edges of the receiver near the chamber look like they saw some buffing. Let's hope the butchered magazine was not numbered to the pistol, although a donor magazine body can be found without much problems. Would make a nice shooter though, for a shooter price, that is

03-29-2010, 05:08 PM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I don't think the intention was to render the magazine inoperable. It looks like the follower will still travel freely. What it does look like is this mag was adapted to work in something other than a luger. By doing so it is now useless for a Luger, as the placement of the new magazine catch hole would no longer secure the mag in a normal Luger frame.

03-29-2010, 06:16 PM	#11
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Can the follower button be rotated into that notch? I've seen that someplace, somewhere, sometime. FN

03-29-2010, 06:23 PM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	The magazine catch has been machined away, so if this magazine is inserted into a P08, it will hang low (way too low).