Do 1920 Carbines Truly Exist

cirelaw · 09-05-2010, 04:17 PM

I bought mine from Gramps year ago. Ive never seen another. It Lacks any import markings. There was some guy piecing them together. Somewhere inside there a serial number and it is 9mm. Theres none on P.I.A. Imagine that!! There has to be more out there! Jerry did a fabulous job on the leather!

sheepherder · 09-05-2010, 04:21 PM

Perhaps I am missing something here...We all know that Lugerman makes them to order...Presumably, he would make one from any model you wanted...

cirelaw · 09-05-2010, 04:53 PM

I'm aware of copies. I'm only interested in legit original. There seem to be far more of the earlier models

Ron Wood · 09-05-2010, 05:38 PM

There were far more earlier models. The 1902 Carbine was a standard, if somewhat limited, production gun with an estimated 2500 pieces produced. The 1920 Commercials were special order items and were not produced in large numbers. Dwight Gruber has recorded only about 30 examples and most of them are two digit serial numbers. The 1920 guns were assembled as needed and there is considerable variation in existing examples.

sheepherder · 09-05-2010, 06:32 PM

There seem to be 2 on GB right now...plus a Martz...

cirelaw · 09-05-2010, 07:10 PM

Thank You Ron, that makes sence!!! I'm not aware of any original 9mm 1020 available anywhere.

09-05-2010, 04:17 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Do 1920 Carbines Truly Exist I bought mine from Gramps year ago. Ive never seen another. It Lacks any import markings. There was some guy piecing them together. Somewhere inside there a serial number and it is 9mm. Theres none on P.I.A. Imagine that!! There has to be more out there! Jerry did a fabulous job on the leather! Attached Thumbnails

09-05-2010, 04:21 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	Perhaps I am missing something here...We all know that Lugerman makes them to order...Presumably, he would make one from any model you wanted... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

09-05-2010, 05:38 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	There were far more earlier models. The 1902 Carbine was a standard, if somewhat limited, production gun with an estimated 2500 pieces produced. The 1920 Commercials were special order items and were not produced in large numbers. Dwight Gruber has recorded only about 30 examples and most of them are two digit serial numbers. The 1920 guns were assembled as needed and there is considerable variation in existing examples. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-05-2010, 06:32 PM	#5
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	There seem to be 2 on GB right now...plus a Martz... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

09-05-2010, 04:53 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I'm aware of copies. I'm only interested in legit original. There seem to be far more of the earlier models

09-05-2010, 07:10 PM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You Ron, that makes sence!!! I'm not aware of any original 9mm 1020 available anywhere.