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Unread 08-28-2011, 01:12 AM   #1
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The Blue Max Parabellum.
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Unread 08-28-2011, 01:41 AM   #2
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These and the Mitchells (the ones who have the K98's) have been brought up on the forums off and on before .

They are not collectibles IMHO and in fact, if I remember right, they use whatever shooters they could get, so they have nazi era guns with these stylized WW1 markings.

Waste of a perfectly good shooter...

However, this particular one (like the Red Barron model) is tastefully done and I like it, but the prices they ask for them, you will never see your investment in my opinion...

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I like the way Tink tinks. I tink he is tinking right on this ting.
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It should have George Peppard's signature on it. Just sayin'

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Unread 08-28-2011, 08:10 AM   #5
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Where are they going to get 500 Lugers to ruin this way? I have it on good authority that Mitchell Arms used up the last Luger in the World!

I wonder if they are heating the shop with the original Luger grips they are stripping off these?
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...And a travesty, to boot...

(I rather think they have the original grips on eBay for ~$200)
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Seriously, where on earth could anyone (including these characters) still get Lugers in quantity these days, in any condition?

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They also bought into the Russian Luger releases of the late 90's. The difference is they sat on them so they could perpetrate these kind of "Limited Editions" and make more for each unit sold them they would on a dozen or so line pistols.
Remember, someone is also buying all those Elvis velvet paintings..
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OK guys......I cant help it.....how much are they asking for these "Blue Max" Lugers..?........IMHO.....I just cant imagine anyone buying one of these...........but remember what ole P.T. Barnham once said..........anyway.......just curious what price tag they put on these.....as Ive seen the ad for the Mitchell Lugers running around $7,000 ..... Hans Fischer
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Remember, someone is also buying all those Elvis velvet paintings..
I'm still looking for the "Elvis The Matador" black velvet 'throw'...To hang on the wall with my "Five Dogs Playing Poker" throw...(I also have a Lockheed C-130 Hercules beach towel on one wall, but everyone has one of those)...
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I really don't think these guns are actually old guns or shooters restored. They are newly manufactured reproductions, but by whom I don't know. My guess is an Italian company under some kind of exclusive contract deal.

I know they (the American Historical Foundation) uses generally available Uberti guns from Italy for the Colt reproductions they sell. Although the non-decorated Uberti Colts are available from dealers, many of the other guns AHF sells such as the Luger and P-38 are not. I would buy some of them without all the gold and engraving that makes them so expensive.
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It should have George Peppard's signature on it. Just sayin'

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Frankly, I'd rather have the Field Marshal's (James Mason's) wife, Ursula Andress sign mine. I'd let her take it to bed with her if she wanted to.

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I really don't think these guns are actually old guns or shooters restored. They are newly manufactured reproductions, but by whom I don't know. My guess is an Italian company under some kind of exclusive contract deal.

I know they (the American Historical Foundation) uses generally available Uberti guns from Italy for the Colt reproductions they sell. Although the non-decorated Uberti Colts are available from dealers, many of the other guns AHF sells such as the Luger and P-38 are not. I would buy some of them without all the gold and engraving that makes them so expensive.
There is no company out there producing Lugers that we are not aware of. These are original guns, which have been buffed, deep blued and engraved to appear as factory presentation pistols. If you look closely at the "Blue Max", you will clearly see a "Mauser Hump", which would not have been present on a World War 1 pistol.

These are all recycled pistols with lavish make-up jobs..
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All of this gold plated limited edition business is nonsense. If anyone buys one of these guns as an "investment," he will be fortunate indeed to get one-third to one- half of his original purchase price upon selling it--no matter how long he owns it. Buy an original Luger, in the best condition you can afford, care for it, do not ever "improve" it with refinishing, etc., and you will truly have an investment that you can enjoy and that will appreciate in value.
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These type of guns are not mainstream collectibles, only to those that like these things and for that they fill a niche. I think the line get's crossed when companys lie about what they are. The coin collector market goes through the same thing. In the end it's all an illusion.
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Well, here's another one of those "bee-yew-tee-fill" pistols! I'm sure the owners keep them right next to the 500 piece "extremely rare" knife collection they bought for $29.95 on Home Shopping Network!

Sometimes it's good to get the old photos out again and have a good laugh!

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The consistent extremely poor fit of the grips on these "commemoratives" is really impressive...
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For perspective buyers, many of the guns you receive will not be what you expect in quality or functionality. I have seen first hand actions that would not cycle and even some that became jammed and could not be returned to battery on manual cycling of the action.

Like most advertising they display the very best of their products, that does not mean you get the same thing, only that it will look similar.

They do not guarantee functionality, something you realty need to understand before you purchase.

I too like looking at such things
Pretty does sale and that is exactly why they do it!

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All of this gold plated limited edition business is nonsense. If anyone buys one of these guns as an "investment," he will be fortunate indeed to get one-third to one- half of his original purchase price upon selling it--no matter how long he owns it.
That goes for pretty much any "instant collectible". Im my world, the value of any collectible lies in the fact that it's no longer produced, and the future market for things that are intentionally made for collection is very unsure. Granted, some people collect just because it's fun to collect and there sure are some old baseball cards that bring good money, but if you're buying a Blue Max Luger as an investment you're better off spending the money on lottery tickets.
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