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Unread 07-13-2021, 05:16 PM   #1
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Greetings - What is the best way to identify which sub-variant of the P-08 I have? All parts have matching serial numbers and it has never been refurbished. The gentleman who brought it back from WW-1 hid it in his pants as he departed the ship. Thanks for your help!
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Unread 07-13-2021, 05:19 PM   #2
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Your kidding right ??? No pictures, no description ?? .... I mean the guys here are good and you came to the right place but please help us help you.

What make is your Luger -
1. DWM
2. Erfurt
3. Mauser
4. Simson
5. Kreighoff Suhl

What length is your barrel ?
Does it have a date like this

Answer these questions and try to get pictures up and we go from there OK ??
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Not Possible!!
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Welcome to the forum. This is the right place to ask your question BUT we need far more information in order to answer with any accuracy.

Clear, sharp pictures of the entire gun from different angles plus pictures of the markings and serial number on the front of the frame should allow us to answer your questions.

Otherwise, details of all marking and where they're located on the gun are needed along with barrel length and sight configuration.

Help us and we'll gladly help you.
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Try this as well:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showpost...75&postcount=2
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You'll find the reference information in our FAQ document (Gerben posted the link above) to be quite useful.

There are many subtle things about Lugers, so posting well exposed, sharp pictures (taken in shaded natural light - not with flash) will help us help you.
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Thank you for your feedback. Here are some pictures that I hope will be helpful. Thank you again!
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There is no date over the chamber?
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Judging by the acceptance stamps, it's either a 1917 or 1918 dated DWM.
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Thank you for your feedback. The date has been filed off. Would that make the sale value, as I intend to sell it, significantly less? Thank you.
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Do you have a photo of that area?
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Juris, Unfortunately with the date scrubbed it really does affect the value. From a collectable it drops it to a shooter.
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I agree it hurts the value. But I also wonder why anyone would want to remove the chamber date at all.
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Then only semi-plausible idea I can come up with is that the pistol simply retained all its military proof markings in lieu of commercial nitro proofs as it was a cottage industry commercial rework post WW1? My post-war commercial's chamber has indications of a date having been scrubbed from it as it was reworked for commercial sale. But it was given nitro proofs and a commercial style SN.
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I agree with Quinten - what caliber is it?
Do you see a Germany or made in Germany stamp anywhere?
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From what I can see it's a straight military with the date scrubbed and no other indications of commercial sale so far? But as Ed says, caliber and Germany? This info would give some leads..There was a period in time in the USA where misinformation caused owners of Luger's to grind on them. Stock lugs for example. A photo of the ground area would be helpful. Re blued after grinding or no?
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Any numbers or stamps on the holster? Is there a date on the front? Can you provide a photo of the front of the loading tool and mag bottoms?
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Here are additional photos. Breakdown tool with Symbol; Holster with number stamped; Holster with 5847 stamped; Clip with 5847 stamped; clips' rear view; top of gun date filed. Thank you all for your feedback! Patrick
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You have a shooter grade Luger Filing the date pretty much eliminates collector interest in your pistol. We get a lot of "what's it worth" posts, and many new owners are disappointed.

I really can't make out much detail from your photos. They are too small and some lack focus. I'll assume it's been refinished or left ground and unfinished.

In any case, you may expect $900-$1100 for it all. I would expect to see halos on the barrel gauge stamp so it's likely this pistol has been refinished.

The manipulation is unfortunate, since a unmolested original finish pistol like this with original accessories and matching magazines would go for well over $2500...
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Bubba done filed off $1,500 worth of metal and bluing.
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