1914 Erfurt L P08 low serial

patsy57 · 12-18-2018, 06:47 PM

Hello all I recently acquired a very low serial number 1914 Erfurt Artillery Luger and was wondering what the lowest serial numbers recorded are?

This is number 130

Please let me know your thoughts

DavidJayUden · 12-18-2018, 07:49 PM

Any suffix?
dju

patsy57 · 12-18-2018, 08:27 PM

No suffix just Serial 130

beachbaker · 12-18-2018, 10:51 PM

I doubt that you will get a different answer on here than the one given you on the Jan Still forum.

Edward Tinker · 12-18-2018, 11:23 PM

Mine is 6441

but I doubt a lower serial number matters to most folks, maybe 1, or 10 or 100 or 1000 - something fun

Ed

patsy57 · 12-19-2018, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by beachbaker

I doubt that you will get a different answer on here than the one given you on the Jan Still forum.

I Haven’t gotten an answer on jans forum hence why I’m trying here...

patsy57 · 12-19-2018, 07:08 AM

Ed,
Absolutely just was curious what’s documented as I can’t get to my books right now since I’m in the middle of a move... Thanks for all your help

DonVoigt · 12-19-2018, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by patsy57

I Haven’t gotten an answer on jans forum hence why I’m trying here...

Actually you did, and I was chastised for answering it!

Lowest observed number in Still's Imperial Luger book is 63.

patsy57 · 12-19-2018, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Actually you did, and I was chastised for answering it!

Lowers observed number in Still's Imperial Luger book is 63.

Really what definitive answer was that?

I’m
Going to vent now it amazes me how people can be chastized for asking questions and giving answers. While I understand the frustration that some may have with individuals not doing their own research or having the means to do so, it still boggles my mind.

If we as a collector community chastise or flame new collectors when they ask questions or do not offer guidance what happens to our beloved hobby? It will disappear over time.

Just my 2 cents not that it matters but I had to say it.

Norme · 12-19-2018, 10:21 AM

Calm down Patrick, no one is chastising or flaming you on either forum. As far as I know no one so far has maintained a data base of Erfurt Artilleries since Jan Still did just that back in 1991. If you're that interested start one yourself, it's a lot of work, I should know. I've been keeping a data base on Navy Lugers for almost 10 years now and probably have many hundreds of hours invested in it.
Norm
P.S. If you need some help getting started, let me know.

patsy57 · 12-19-2018, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

Calm down Patrick, no one is chastising or flaming you on either forum. As far as I know no one so far has maintained a data base of Erfurt Artilleries since Jan Still did just that back in 1991. If you're that interested start one yourself, it's a lot of work, I should know. I've been keeping a data base on Navy Lugers for almost 10 years now and probably have many hundreds of hours invested in it.
Norm
P.S. If you need some help getting started, let me know.

Thanks, the chastise comment was in reference to DonVoight, mentioned being chastised.

I think it’s a great idea to start keeping a DB, and that sounds like an endeavor I would begin. I just need to get my bearings first, since I have always collected WW2 Lugers, and the occasional PPK bank gun. Pre war is all new to me

Thanks for your help in advance.

DonVoigt · 12-19-2018, 12:38 PM

"Really what definitive answer was that?"

Where the info was found and that #63 was the earliest number reported in Still's book.

Never said it was "definitive"; there have been books with hundreds of pages written about lugers and much is still and likely never will be "definitive"; but you can be sure it will be my last contribution to this and the other thread.

patsy57 · 12-19-2018, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

"Really what definitive answer was that?"

Where the info was found and that #63 was the earliest number reported in Still's book.

Never said it was "definitive"; there have been books with hundreds of pages written about lugers and much is still and likely never will be "definitive"; but you can be sure it will be my last contribution to this and the other thread.

Thank you for all your help, I believed their was still room in your answer but I see I was mistaken. I appreciate everything you have said and I’m sorry if you took heat for helping me.

jcoe · 12-19-2018, 02:32 PM

Maybe this LP08 Erfurt #3 (match), will help
B Regds, John

patsy57 · 12-19-2018, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jcoe

Maybe this LP08 Erfurt #3 (match), will help
B Regds, John

Thank you!!

I will post pics of mine this evening

Beautiful!

Norme · 12-19-2018, 02:42 PM

Wow John, that is one superb gun! Thanks for posting the photos.
Norm

beachbaker · 12-19-2018, 02:51 PM

Very, very nice!!

George Anderson · 12-19-2018, 02:56 PM

John, that's one hell of an Erfurt. Thanks for posting the photos.

JTD · 12-19-2018, 06:56 PM

Just plain WOW John, that is the cats meow...... Thanks for showing it to us. John

DavidJayUden · 12-19-2018, 08:33 PM

I assume that it is just me, but is the barrel bent or is that a wide angle lens thing?
dju

12-18-2018, 06:47 PM	#1
patsy57 User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	1914 Erfurt L P08 low serial Hello all I recently acquired a very low serial number 1914 Erfurt Artillery Luger and was wondering what the lowest serial numbers recorded are? This is number 130 Please let me know your thoughts

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	"Really what definitive answer was that?" Where the info was found and that #63 was the earliest number reported in Still's book. Never said it was "definitive"; there have been books with hundreds of pages written about lugers and much is still and likely never will be "definitive"; but you can be sure it will be my last contribution to this and the other thread. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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jcoe User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: mt Posts: 38 Thanks: 13 Thanked 31 Times in 9 Posts	Maybe this LP08 Erfurt #3 (match), will help B Regds, John Attached Thumbnails

12-18-2018, 07:49 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Any suffix? dju

12-18-2018, 08:27 PM	#3
patsy57 User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	No suffix just Serial 130

12-19-2018, 07:08 AM	#7
patsy57 User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Ed, Absolutely just was curious what’s documented as I can’t get to my books right now since I’m in the middle of a move... Thanks for all your help

12-19-2018, 10:21 AM	#10
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Calm down Patrick, no one is chastising or flaming you on either forum. As far as I know no one so far has maintained a data base of Erfurt Artilleries since Jan Still did just that back in 1991. If you're that interested start one yourself, it's a lot of work, I should know. I've been keeping a data base on Navy Lugers for almost 10 years now and probably have many hundreds of hours invested in it. Norm P.S. If you need some help getting started, let me know.

12-19-2018, 02:42 PM	#16
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Wow John, that is one superb gun! Thanks for posting the photos. Norm

12-19-2018, 02:51 PM	#17
beachbaker Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: california Posts: 135 Thanks: 27 Thanked 106 Times in 29 Posts	Very, very nice!! __________________ Curt

12-19-2018, 02:56 PM	#18
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	John, that's one hell of an Erfurt. Thanks for posting the photos.

12-19-2018, 06:56 PM	#19
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 424 Thanks: 214 Thanked 407 Times in 148 Posts	Just plain WOW John, that is the cats meow...... Thanks for showing it to us. John

12-19-2018, 08:33 PM	#20
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I assume that it is just me, but is the barrel bent or is that a wide angle lens thing? dju