New Baby Artillery

milesc2 · 01-19-2018, 01:01 AM

Today was great! Took the day off work and paid a visit to Art Buchanan.

I was fortunate enough to see his collection and eat lunch with him and his wife.

Picked up a Baby Artillery from him. I don't think many of these are out there.

Blue was done by Charles Danner

milesc2 · 01-19-2018, 01:10 AM

Two more.

milesc2 · 01-19-2018, 01:13 AM

Art's #27

rhuff · 01-19-2018, 02:18 PM

That is another "Luger first" for me. Thanx for showing your new Luger.

Vlim · 01-19-2018, 04:47 PM

Aww. Now that's a cute gun! Well done.

Ron Wood · 01-19-2018, 05:05 PM

That is like getting a new puppy that is already housebroken! I like it! Art is one of the super resources for the hobby...glad to see he is still at the top of his game.
Ron

milesc2 · 01-19-2018, 05:07 PM

Next phase of the project will be a 3 inch cannon assembly.
It should be a fun kit when it's all finished.
Can't wait to get it on the range.

sheepherder · 01-19-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by milesc2

Next phase of the project will be a 3 inch cannon assembly.

...???...What is that???

Ron Wood · 01-19-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

...???...What is that???

Aw, c'mon...you know what he means...a receiver with a 3" barrel and full toggle train. Something that he can just swap out with the shortened arty upper and put it on the baby frame. He is essentially building a multi-barrel baby Luger kit.
Ron

DonVoigt · 01-19-2018, 07:18 PM

Another 3" barrel? Looks like one in the picture- 9MM or .30?

How about one like this?

milesc2 · 01-19-2018, 11:44 PM

I do like GT's barrels but I don't think it would be right for this build. Going to go with a standard barrel cut down to 3 inches.

The 3 inch baby photographed above is not mine used Art's for a size comparison.

milesc2 · 01-19-2018, 11:51 PM

Art cutting a frame.

milesc2 · 01-20-2018, 01:19 AM

It took a little fitting but I was able to get the 1906 cannon mounted on the baby frame.

Got everything working perfect I think, but it looks like I will need to have two side plates.

DonVoigt · 01-20-2018, 09:25 AM

Thanks for the pictures of Art making the frame mods! Your 1906 upper looks fine too.
Not unusual to need two side plates to make two different uppers function with the same lower; those pesky tolerances again.

I will be very curious to know if you can get all 3 uppers(the 3" when you make it included) to function with the same main spring.

The shortened frame makes for an exacting job to get the mainspring the correct length and strength. My 3" 7,65mm upper and the bull 9mm will function with the same mainspring; but it took a while and cutting several springs to get the "right" one. It also takes Privi or hand loaded 7,65mm to function- fiocchi just won't work.

sheepherder · 01-20-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Thanks for the pictures of Art making the frame mods!

My Thanks! as well!

Do you have any more? I enjoy viewing pics of fabricators at work! It almost makes me want to get off the couch and do something...Almost...

DonVoigt · 01-20-2018, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

My Thanks! as well!

Do you have any more? I enjoy viewing pics of fabricators at work! It almost makes me want to get off the couch and do something...Almost...

Me too! Almost.

But then my welding technique is "puddle and burn"; so maybe the sofa is safer.

milesc2 · 01-20-2018, 08:46 PM

No more build photos. I’m sure I’ll be back at Art’s shop soon so I’ll try to get some more.

Went to the range today and fired 100 rounds of WWB through the baby.
50 with the artillery top end and 50 through a P08 4 inch cannon.
No issues whatsoever!

I don’t know if this means the 3 inch will work fine, but it’s a good sign I believe.

milesc2 · 01-20-2018, 08:48 PM

4 inch barrel mounted.

DonVoigt · 01-21-2018, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milesc2

No more build photos. I’m sure I’ll be back at Art’s shop soon so I’ll try to get some more.

Went to the range today and fired 100 rounds of WWB through the baby.
50 with the artillery top end and 50 through a P08 4 inch cannon.
No issues whatsoever!

I don’t know if this means the 3 inch will work fine, but it’s a good sign I believe.

A really good sign.

Your 3" will likely be fine in 9mm, or are you thinking of a .30 bbl some time too?

milesc2 · 01-21-2018, 12:50 PM

Sticking with 9mm.

01-19-2018, 01:01 AM	#1
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	New Baby Artillery Today was great! Took the day off work and paid a visit to Art Buchanan. I was fortunate enough to see his collection and eat lunch with him and his wife. Picked up a Baby Artillery from him. I don't think many of these are out there. Blue was done by Charles Danner Attached Thumbnails

01-19-2018, 01:13 AM	#3
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	Art's #27 Attached Thumbnails

01-19-2018, 02:18 PM	#4
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	That is another "Luger first" for me. Thanx for showing your new Luger. __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

01-19-2018, 05:05 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	That is like getting a new puppy that is already housebroken! I like it! Art is one of the super resources for the hobby...glad to see he is still at the top of his game. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-19-2018, 05:07 PM	#7
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	Next phase of the project will be a 3 inch cannon assembly. It should be a fun kit when it's all finished. Can't wait to get it on the range. Attached Thumbnails

01-19-2018, 01:10 AM	#2
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	Two more. Attached Thumbnails

01-19-2018, 04:47 PM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,031 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Aww. Now that's a cute gun! Well done.

01-19-2018, 07:18 PM	#10
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Another 3" barrel? Looks like one in the picture- 9MM or .30? How about one like this? Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-19-2018, 11:44 PM	#11
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	I do like GT's barrels but I don't think it would be right for this build. Going to go with a standard barrel cut down to 3 inches. The 3 inch baby photographed above is not mine used Art's for a size comparison.

01-19-2018, 11:51 PM	#12
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	Art cutting a frame. Attached Thumbnails

01-20-2018, 01:19 AM	#13
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	It took a little fitting but I was able to get the 1906 cannon mounted on the baby frame. Got everything working perfect I think, but it looks like I will need to have two side plates. Attached Thumbnails

01-20-2018, 09:25 AM	#14
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	Thanks for the pictures of Art making the frame mods! Your 1906 upper looks fine too. Not unusual to need two side plates to make two different uppers function with the same lower; those pesky tolerances again. I will be very curious to know if you can get all 3 uppers(the 3" when you make it included) to function with the same main spring. The shortened frame makes for an exacting job to get the mainspring the correct length and strength. My 3" 7,65mm upper and the bull 9mm will function with the same mainspring; but it took a while and cutting several springs to get the "right" one. It also takes Privi or hand loaded 7,65mm to function- fiocchi just won't work. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-20-2018, 08:46 PM	#17
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	No more build photos. I’m sure I’ll be back at Art’s shop soon so I’ll try to get some more. Went to the range today and fired 100 rounds of WWB through the baby. 50 with the artillery top end and 50 through a P08 4 inch cannon. No issues whatsoever! I don’t know if this means the 3 inch will work fine, but it’s a good sign I believe.

01-20-2018, 08:48 PM	#18
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	4 inch barrel mounted. Attached Thumbnails

01-21-2018, 12:50 PM	#20
milesc2 User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas City Posts: 214 Thanks: 324 Thanked 249 Times in 66 Posts	Sticking with 9mm.