16 inch Barrel

Berwyn · 09-28-2010, 09:01 PM

I recently purchase Luger from an acquaintance. Included with the pistol was an extra barrel. This barrel is a little over 16 inches long and a walnut for-end that is about 14 1/2 inches long. The barrel and wood look new. It has never been on a gun. There are no marks on the barrel and it is 9mm. I assume this is an aftermarket novelty, but I have never seen one before. Does anyone have any info on this? Thanks.

mrerick · 09-28-2010, 09:25 PM

Please post pictures. Follow the guidelines shown elsewhere on this site.

Back in the 1920's, several companies were importing Lugers to the USA.

Some of them offered a variety of lengths of barrels.

Depending on several details, your gun could have originally been a Luger Carbine, with the shorter barrel swapped/added after the fact. <From photos below, this is not the case...>

In any case, pictures are pretty necessary for any kind of analysis.

Marc

Ron Wood · 09-28-2010, 09:37 PM

Most likely the 16-inch barrel with walnut forestock is of recent manufacture. I have seen a number of them offered for sale to construct a Luger "carbine". The 16-inch barrel length makes it legal to do so, but the wooden stock attaches to the barrel, so the combined weight impairs proper functioning of the gun.

rolandtg · 09-28-2010, 11:28 PM

16" barrel from Numrich I believe. No markings.
Numrich also sold a crude forestock as well.

I have yet to fire it.

FNorm · 09-29-2010, 07:19 AM

Check the barrel twist rate. Some of the 'modern' ones have a 16:1 whereas the original luger used an 8:1 , even in the LP08.

FN

Berwyn · 09-29-2010, 08:25 PM

I am a novice when it comes to Lugers, but I'm sure this is not an original barrel. I am just curious who, why, and when these barrels were made. It does have a 1:16 twist. I do not plan on putting it on a gun. I will probability end up putting it on GB.
Ron, you are correct. The wood is screwed the the barrel.

alanint · 09-29-2010, 09:58 PM

This is the classic long barrel offered by Numrich Arms/Gun Parts Corp. several years ago. It may also have been offered by Sarco and other parts houses.

Totally impractical modification.

Lugerdoc · 09-30-2010, 10:28 AM

Berwyn, These are still listed in the Numrich catalog @$122.88 + S&H. I have a couple without the set up for the wood fore arm available in the $50 to $100 range. TH

Berwyn · 10-02-2010, 08:33 PM

Thanks to everyone for your help. I have recently purchased two very nice shooters. One has a four inch barrel the other is a 6 inch with a regiment number on it. Who ever refinished them did an excellent job. I think I will stop there, collector pieces are too expensive for me.

09-28-2010, 09:01 PM	#1
Berwyn New User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	16 inch Barrel I recently purchase Luger from an acquaintance. Included with the pistol was an extra barrel. This barrel is a little over 16 inches long and a walnut for-end that is about 14 1/2 inches long. The barrel and wood look new. It has never been on a gun. There are no marks on the barrel and it is 9mm. I assume this is an aftermarket novelty, but I have never seen one before. Does anyone have any info on this? Thanks.

09-28-2010, 09:25 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Please post pictures. Follow the guidelines shown elsewhere on this site. Back in the 1920's, several companies were importing Lugers to the USA. Some of them offered a variety of lengths of barrels. Depending on several details, your gun could have originally been a Luger Carbine, with the shorter barrel swapped/added after the fact. <From photos below, this is not the case...> In any case, pictures are pretty necessary for any kind of analysis. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

09-28-2010, 09:37 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Most likely the 16-inch barrel with walnut forestock is of recent manufacture. I have seen a number of them offered for sale to construct a Luger "carbine". The 16-inch barrel length makes it legal to do so, but the wooden stock attaches to the barrel, so the combined weight impairs proper functioning of the gun. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-28-2010, 11:28 PM	#4
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 471 Thanks: 361 Thanked 254 Times in 111 Posts	16" barrel from Numrich I believe. No markings. Numrich also sold a crude forestock as well. I have yet to fire it. Last edited by rolandtg; 10-03-2010 at 12:38 AM.

09-29-2010, 08:25 PM	#6
Berwyn New User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am a novice when it comes to Lugers, but I'm sure this is not an original barrel. I am just curious who, why, and when these barrels were made. It does have a 1:16 twist. I do not plan on putting it on a gun. I will probability end up putting it on GB. Ron, you are correct. The wood is screwed the the barrel. Attached Thumbnails

09-29-2010, 07:19 AM	#5
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Check the barrel twist rate. Some of the 'modern' ones have a 16:1 whereas the original luger used an 8:1 , even in the LP08. FN

09-29-2010, 09:58 PM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	This is the classic long barrel offered by Numrich Arms/Gun Parts Corp. several years ago. It may also have been offered by Sarco and other parts houses. Totally impractical modification.

09-30-2010, 10:28 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Berwyn, These are still listed in the Numrich catalog @$122.88 + S&H. I have a couple without the set up for the wood fore arm available in the $50 to $100 range. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-02-2010, 08:33 PM	#9
Berwyn New User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks to everyone for your help. I have recently purchased two very nice shooters. One has a four inch barrel the other is a 6 inch with a regiment number on it. Who ever refinished them did an excellent job. I think I will stop there, collector pieces are too expensive for me.