Food for thought: is the luger really a "weak" design?

[Diver6106]

While I love shooting Lugers, it does have a lot of moving parts and not straight forward like an auto with a slide - now the dominant design. But since the design was for 7.65 Parabellum but then increased to 9mm and even 45 ACP. One would have to conclude it is certainly a robust design.

I bought a WWI DWM with an original broken firing pin, the catch block for the sear was broken off but the metal was all there. It had cleanly cracked at the weakest point, around the base of the block at the tube part. But without careful micro analysis, one could not tell if it was from wear or metallurgy of the time. And as we know, metallurgy improved in the Luger over the years, with Mauser and Kreighoff pistols.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Yes, Jim, that is it. Thanks.

Everyone should watch that video and see for themselves how "sensitive" the luger is.

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Would someone please add the link to the U tube video of the firing of the "mud test" luger?
I can't get it out of my mind!

Gentlemen:

Please watch this and its sister video on the Colt 1911 design.

The Luger tested beat the 1911, hands down, in a real world mud test!!

Sieger

[Edward Tinker]

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tried to read all of the above - I personally have had two breachblock rears blow out, both using 9mm+ ammo - first time was simply that it happened - second time was me using a long barrel luger, 16 inches

both breachblocks were in shooters, but it still happened

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

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tried to read all of the above - I personally have had two breachblock rears blow out, both using 9mm+ ammo - first time was simply that it happened - second time was me using a long barrel luger, 16 inches

both breachblocks were in shooters, but it still happened

Ed,
did they blow out as in break/fail or as in the tab or tab groove wore through and they "came" out?

Did you mean 9mm + P ammo?

[unitedcs]

I'd suggest shooting the request/subject to the editor of Guns & Ammo. They'd probably be willing to put one through a torture test. Would make for great reading sitting on the thrown one morning.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by unitedcs

I'd suggest shooting the request/subject to the editor of Guns & Ammo. They'd probably be willing to put one through a torture test. Would make for great reading sitting on the thrown one morning.

Hi,

I doubt that anyone at Guns and Ammo would even understand the basic mechanical operation of a Luger, let alone "torture test" one.

Sieger

[unitedcs]

Yea your probably right, Guns & Ammo doesn't know squat about firearms