Rg34 for Luger?

farmertom · 02-25-2009, 06:14 PM

Hello,
got this RG34 some time ago.
"P" might be for Pistole (pistol)?
"S/42" "39" and serial#
Ever seen something like that?
Thanks
Tom

jussi16 · 02-26-2009, 08:54 AM

HI!
I have one kit for sale. The only thing is, that it is a West-German reinigungsgerÃ?Â¤t. The oil-bottle is metal and from the WWII era, I think.
Anyone? I`m interested in all luger parts, thanks!

jussi

Vlim · 02-26-2009, 12:10 PM

Tom,

Interesting. I've seen a number of these RG34's and own a few but have never seen this sort of marking.

Here's an image of the RG34 in use. Not many people know they were used to clean P08's as well.

farmertom · 02-26-2009, 01:25 PM

Hello,
beautiful photo! Have photos showing the RG34 in use with K98k ...., but not with a pistol.
Well, the Germans only had the RG34 and the RG34 for cal.22 to clean their guns.
The RG34 cal.22 was used for training rifles and some booty weapons. The regular RG34 for all other rifles, pistols, sub machine guns .....
But, G.Appel produced a RG34 with a clamp for a 9mm brush. This clamp was inside the lid of the large compartment. These RG34 do not have a WaA stamp. Why?? Export? Field Test?
Thanks
Tom

Steinar · 03-02-2009, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmertom

Hello,
got this RG34 some time ago.
"P" might be for Pistole (pistol)?
"S/42" "39" and serial#
Ever seen something like that?
Thanks
Tom

I'm on thin ice when it comes to these RG34's..
But for me S/42 would indicate Mauser production (1936-38) in Oberndorf.
Can't understand why Mauser would stamp something made by G.Appel?
If restamped after production by Mauser, it would have been done the same year as produced. Just my thoughts.

farmertom · 03-02-2009, 12:47 PM

Hello,
the S/42 stamp was not applied by Mauser. Most probably by the armorer of the unit.
Some prewar RG34 are marked with "G" or "K" for rifle/carbine and the serial# of the gun.
Some RG34 are marked with a unit stamp.
This is the only one I've seen so far with such a detailed allocation to a certain gun.
attached photo shows a RG34 with Navy acceptance and unit marking.
Tom

Silvereagle29 · 03-05-2009, 11:53 PM

Very interesting with a North Sea property number. Can you read the number on this kit?

thanks

farmertom · 03-07-2009, 05:43 AM

Hello,
unit stap is: 2.M.A.A. (2nd coastal artillery detachment)
manufacturer: HAWIG
oiler is also marked with: N.608
Tom

farmertom · 04-09-2009, 03:56 AM

Hello,
some more details on RG34 markings.

Heeres Verordnungsblatt dated 5/9/35:
Until further notice, unitmarkings on equipment are omitted. Existing markings do not have to deleted.
Heeresverordnungsblatt dated 7/15/39:
RG34 cleaning kits are to be stamped with "G" + serial# when issued with a rifle Mod. 98 and "P" + serial# when issued with a pistol.

Seems that not many armorers followed this order.

Heeres Verordnungsblatt => Army decree journal

Tom

alanint · 04-09-2009, 07:22 AM

So, does anybody here own 1939 S/42 pistol 4115?

02-25-2009, 06:14 PM	#1
farmertom User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rg34 for Luger? Hello, got this RG34 some time ago. "P" might be for Pistole (pistol)? "S/42" "39" and serial# Ever seen something like that? Thanks Tom Attached Thumbnails

02-26-2009, 12:10 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,987 Times in 1,205 Posts	Tom, Interesting. I've seen a number of these RG34's and own a few but have never seen this sort of marking. Here's an image of the RG34 in use. Not many people know they were used to clean P08's as well. Attached Thumbnails

02-26-2009, 01:25 PM	#4
farmertom User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, beautiful photo! Have photos showing the RG34 in use with K98k ...., but not with a pistol. Well, the Germans only had the RG34 and the RG34 for cal.22 to clean their guns. The RG34 cal.22 was used for training rifles and some booty weapons. The regular RG34 for all other rifles, pistols, sub machine guns ..... But, G.Appel produced a RG34 with a clamp for a 9mm brush. This clamp was inside the lid of the large compartment. These RG34 do not have a WaA stamp. Why?? Export? Field Test? Thanks Tom Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

03-02-2009, 12:47 PM	#6
farmertom User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, the S/42 stamp was not applied by Mauser. Most probably by the armorer of the unit. Some prewar RG34 are marked with "G" or "K" for rifle/carbine and the serial# of the gun. Some RG34 are marked with a unit stamp. This is the only one I've seen so far with such a detailed allocation to a certain gun. attached photo shows a RG34 with Navy acceptance and unit marking. Tom Attached Thumbnails

02-26-2009, 08:54 AM	#2
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	HI! I have one kit for sale. The only thing is, that it is a West-German reinigungsgerÃ?Â¤t. The oil-bottle is metal and from the WWII era, I think. Anyone? I`m interested in all luger parts, thanks! jussi

03-05-2009, 11:53 PM	#7
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Very interesting with a North Sea property number. Can you read the number on this kit? thanks

03-07-2009, 05:43 AM	#8
farmertom User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, unit stap is: 2.M.A.A. (2nd coastal artillery detachment) manufacturer: HAWIG oiler is also marked with: N.608 Tom

04-09-2009, 03:56 AM	#9
farmertom User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, some more details on RG34 markings. Heeres Verordnungsblatt dated 5/9/35: Until further notice, unitmarkings on equipment are omitted. Existing markings do not have to deleted. Heeresverordnungsblatt dated 7/15/39: RG34 cleaning kits are to be stamped with "G" + serial# when issued with a rifle Mod. 98 and "P" + serial# when issued with a pistol. Seems that not many armorers followed this order. Heeres Verordnungsblatt => Army decree journal Tom

04-09-2009, 07:22 AM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	So, does anybody here own 1939 S/42 pistol 4115?