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Unread 06-11-2016, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default Fellow holsters lovers, please comment. Thanks!!!

Hello again my holster friends. today can you please take a look at this 1944 LYO WaA77, also the number 2 stamped on both sides of the main holster under the flap. This holster was made in Poland. I hear they are pretty rare in good condition...I would say this is in ok condition. What would a holster like this go for? Again thanks for all comments and opinions,

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Unread 06-11-2016, 02:38 PM   #2
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John, what do you think it is?

Looks like a P38 or Radom holster to me.

Can you show good shots of the mag pouch?
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Unread 06-11-2016, 03:28 PM   #3
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Default few more pictures

I'm wondering how valuable they are...I have books that say they are rare but nobody buys them off eBay when they come up for auction...Thanks
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I have never seen one like that before. From the shape of the "nose" I would have to agree with Ed Tinker that the holster is from a Radom pistol... not a Luger or P.38.

Just my $0.02 (until proven that my guess is wrong!)
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Unread 06-13-2016, 11:39 AM   #5
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Note to self: If a holster has a large, original looking "P.38" embossed stamp on it, it probably was a holster for a "P.38".

(note to readers: Eugen is in a light hearted mood this morning)
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Note to self: If a holster has a large, original looking "P.38" embossed stamp on it, it probably was a holster for a "P.38".

(note to readers: Eugen is in a light hearted mood this morning)
+1,
I thought that a pretty significant "tell" also!
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C'mon guys! It's a standard LYO P-38 as some astute posters have indicated. These were likely made with conscripted labor in Poland. Not up to the usual quality of the normal German P-38 holster. But almost always found in original brown for some reason unless dyed black by someone somewhere. Yes they are scarce if not rare..especially in good condition.
The twisted toe is not at all unusual on German holsters. You see it to varying degrees on many holsters. It occours when the holster front is sewn to the back. A misalignment of the two pieces causes them to twist at the toe.

I think the soft leather, long stitching and in general a perceived quality issue is what affects price on these. You would think the color would make up for it some but it doesn't seem to.
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Thank you Jerry. You are the only one who actually read what I was asking...

Eugen, did you read what I was asking. I know its a P38 holster. My question was value. So please next time READ THE FULL POST before you post your remarks. I don't appreciate your comments.

To the rest of you I say thank you.

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Thank you Jerry. You are the only one who actually read what I was asking...

Eugen, did you read what I was asking. I know its a P38 holster. My question was value. So please next time READ THE FULL POST before you post your smart ass remarks. I don't appreciate your comments.

To the rest of you I say thank you.
corby34, I apologize if I offended you with my attempt at humor that was directed to other's replies. Lastly, I don't have any idea what your holster is worth.
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A little testy aren't we corby34.
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John, Mellow out. You may be used to other Forums..but here we won't have any confrontation and swearing. Humor is humor..chuckle and move on. Nothing life or death going on. Always remember first impressions.
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Jerry

What might be effecting the prices of these Polish Luger holsters is that they "look different" then most other original models. With the market having so many repo holsters offered, some collectors may be a bit gun shy in bidding for one of these.

Thanks for providing the info on these rather unique holsters.
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In the German ordinance codes of Holster manufactures (1940-1945) "lyo" was a code for"
Kromolowski & Sohne
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Limanowskistrasse 69

However, there was no Waffenamt Inspectors Number (WaA _ _ _ ) associated with it and one is clearly stamped on this holster.
(WaA 76 is associated with CZ - Czechoslovakia)

I could not find any codes of Polish holsters, probably because it was an occupied country.


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* I see a WaA77 on this holster. This is consistent with the Radom, Poland area maker and the German Waffen Inspector assigned to this area in 1944.
* OBTW: Same inspector bought off the Radom pistol slide and frame "kits".
* Alto these and the "ndk" accepted P.38 holster are infrequently seen, I think Jerry is spot on as to the reason these do not command high $'s. Soft Leather, usually "dinged/scuffed" up, and lower overall quality compared to the German leather shops output.
* Still: Since I also own 2, I would hope this PT would command $275-$300 as an intact, 1944 period correct P38 hardshell from the Eastern "Front".....IMHO.
* Kind of begs for a cyq P38 and a jvd spare mag to complete the picture.
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Any 1944 dated hard shell holster is tough to find, the fact that this is brown as almost all were black at this time, makes it a very desirable accessory to a late war P.38.
Just my .02,
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